Suggestions for a rifle in BP shooting

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Sirius63 posted this 07 May 2021

Hi everyone,

After shooting a couple of BP rifles at my local range im interested in starting to shoot with my own gun. Ive shot some form of muskatoon, and a Springfield trapdoor (I think). Im less interested in muzzle loading and more interested in single shot cartridge rifles. It's unlikely that I will regularly shoot beyond 100yds, occasionally up to 300, but probably very unlikely beyond that. I have an open mind about original guns v modern reproductions. I would like to be able to play around with loads and bullets in the search for consistency and accuracy. Similarly, I have an open mind regarding caliber, but would like to be readily able to source brass and bullets. 

I would greatly welcome any feedback/suggestions.

Enjoy the weekend wherever you find yourself.

Regards

Ralph

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Tom Acheson posted this 07 May 2021

Original old Sharps, for example, will be costly and should only use loads composed of black powder.

If you like the looks of a Sharps Model 74, (see the movie Quigley Down Under) there are two domestic makers of reproductions. Shiloh Sharps and C Sharps Arms (CSA) , both located in Big Timber, Montana. If you want specific features on a Shiloh, you could be in for a long wait. CSA delivery times have been much shorter.

1885 Winchester High and Low wall reproductions are popular. Remington Rolling Blocks are frequently seen. CPA rifles makes reproductions of older rifle designs.

This is just a starter list. There are other sources.

Tom

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Ross Smith posted this 09 May 2021

32-40 are fun to shoot, accurate, and will bang a gong out 300 yds just fine.

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Dale53 posted this 09 May 2021

I competed seriously for fifteen years in Black Powder Cartridge Silhouette. The best rifle out there is the Browning 1885 Single Shot. It is not only beautiful, it is a DANDY! If I had not lost the vision in my right eye, I would have continued to compete. My choice in caliber was 40/65, but 45/70 is a great choice, also!

FWIW

Dale53

 

 

 

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Sirius63 posted this 09 May 2021

Thanks Dale, and Ross,

 

Plenty of research required

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Bud Hyett posted this 09 May 2021

There is good discussion in this thread. My experience is with several rifles, I found reloading the black powder cartridge is another key factor. This requires more time in reloading and testing. Paul Matthews and Pat Wolfe both have good books that will give you a baseline to start

I definitely favor the modern guns since owning both an original Sharps (that I traded six months before "Quigley Down under" came out) and a Shiloh Sharps. The Shiloh is extremely accurate and fun to shoot. I also own a Browning 1885, not the long range target model, that is accurate plus two rebuilt Remington Rolling Blocks. 

Farm boy from Illinois, living in the magical Pacific Northwest

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beltfed posted this 4 weeks ago

Just now there is a good deal on a Browning BPCR rifle, cal 40-65 

over on the ASSRA buy/sell forum. (No, I am not the one selling it)

These are great shooters, easy to build accurate loads. Make brass from 45-70 or Starline 40-65 brass.

beltfed/arnie

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Sirius63 posted this 4 weeks ago

Thanks friend- and if I was in the USA I’d certainly give it a look, but it’s an awful long way from Northumberland 👍

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Lucky1 posted this 3 weeks ago

Being in the UK is a slight twist compared to being here in the land of plenty. Are you currently a reloader? Besides the Martini Henry and Snider being obvious candidates, you may want to consider a Rolling Block. 12mm Swedes are pretty easy to make ammo for. They made a number of other calibers too. We've also resurrected 71 and 71/84 mausers, Vetterli's and Werndels. The continent had alot of good 19th century choices. A good source of info would be to find some more local shooters to guide you through some of hurdles we don't know about. Then if you have some specific issues crop up, we could help you better.

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