Best Available Replacement For 5744

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pat i posted this yesterday

Im sure this has been discussed a bunch of times but things change. A friend asked me what was the best replacement for 5744. Since I have no clue maybe someone can give me some information to pass along. Thanks.

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John Carlson posted this yesterday

Shooters World Buffalo Rifle was a good choice but that is also NLA.  Don't know of anything currently available.

John Carlson. CBA Director of Military Competition.

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Aaron posted this yesterday

Shooters World Buffalo Rifle is a close as you will get to 5744. It's made to the same performance spec as 5744. They duplicated 5744 in the closed bomb tests. It's also much less expensive than A5744.

 

 

With rifle in hand, I confidently go forth into the darkness.

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tomme boy posted this 21 hours ago

4198 of whatever flavor you like.

 

5744 has been made by at least 3 companies. Lovex was one of them so they are actually making one version of the real 5744 sold as Buffalo Rifle. 

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Wm Cook posted this 6 hours ago

Pat, could I ask if the question being asked is for general cast loading or for a specific caliber?

Up until the end of 2025 I would have recommended N110 but for whatever reason it’s been giving headaches this year with its need for a warm to hot barrel before it shot groups. I gave up trying to figure that one out, just not smart enough.

My experience with N110 may be an isolated incident because I think it was Glen who had luck with it in military class.

With a .308 & a 200 grain bullet, 5744 laddered up nicely with about 7 to 10fps per .1 grain between 1640 and 1700 but it topped out (lost ability for an efficient burn) around 1710.

N110 did about the same 7-10fps per .1 grain but it burned consistently through 1760fps.

At one time I thought that an even consistent progressive burn was important to accuracy. I’m not so sure anymore.

At one time I thought N110 was going to be a near one for one 5744 replacement. Now I’m confused as to why it shoots one or two 10 shot patterns before it starts shootings groups. It takes only 10-12 patches and 20-30 brush strokes to clean the bore after 30 shots or after 300 shots. It looks like it burns clean.

I think cost has to be factored in as well. I’ve been using I4227 the last two trips, seemed like it would work so I got a jug of it from Bruno’s for $330. I think N110 sells for about the same.

Great topic Pat. Bill Cook.

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