Lee Liquid Alox Lube

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Aaron posted this yesterday

Having never used Lee Liquid Alox as a lubricant, I decided to give it a try. I cast some 400gr bullets to load in the Marlin (Ruger) 45-70 and see if they actually do not lead up the bore. I admit I was very skeptical about using the LLA as a lubricant but gave it a try. I cast some Lee 457-405-F bullets, lubed them with LLA, sized them in a Lee sizer, then relubed them with LLA.

I loaded them over 35gr of IMR-3031 for a slower velocity out of the rifle. I only had four of them and frankly I was assuming I would need to scrape lead out of the barrel. I was pleasantly surprised to see the fouling was that darn 3031 leaving unburned powder all along the barrel. There was no leading whatsoever in there. While Lee promotes the ease of use with their LLA product, having to lubricate the bullet twice is tedious. For me it is sure easier to lube and size the bullet in one stroke with a lubrisizer. 

Anyway, here is the data from the test shots.

Nice golden sheen on the bullets....

The chrono data....

The powder residue....

Nice load....easy on the shoulder....The LLA worked. Granted it's only four shots but the stuff actually worked.

 

 

With rifle in hand, I confidently go forth into the darkness.

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Idahocaster posted this yesterday

I have had good luck with Lee Liquid Alox cut 50/50 with mineral spirits. It really doesn't take much to be effective! And I size before lurbing and then lube the sized bullets. Never had any problem with leading in my sizers.

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Wilderness posted this 16 hours ago

Aaron.

If your bullets will not size dry, rub the merest trace of anhydrous lanolin on your hands, then roll the bullets between your palms.

Lubing after Lee sizing will remove the possibility of bullets bonding to case necks.

You are only as good as your library.

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Aaron posted this 10 hours ago

I have had good luck with Lee Liquid Alox cut 50/50 with mineral spirits. It really doesn't take much to be effective! And I size before lurbing and then lube the sized bullets. Never had any problem with leading in my sizers.

Had to thin this bottle of lube I have had for.......twenty years. Cut it with mineral spirits. Definitely had to lube before sizing then lube again after. Tried one with no lube in the sizer and needed an elephant to sit on the press arm. The Lee mold drops a larger bullet.

With rifle in hand, I confidently go forth into the darkness.

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Aaron posted this 10 hours ago

Aaron.

If your bullets will not size dry, rub the merest trace of anhydrous lanolin on your hands, then roll the bullets between your palms.

I tried all manner of light lube prior to the initial sizing. It's amazing what will work and what won't work. 

Lubing after Lee sizing will remove the possibility of bullets bonding to case necks.

I was wondering about that after reading your research on the subject.

With rifle in hand, I confidently go forth into the darkness.

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JBinMN posted this 5 hours ago

Similar to Wilderess suggestion using lanolin...   I took some lanolin & mixed it with some rubbing alcohol in an old empty mini spray bottle for cleaning eyeglasses, about half to 2/3rds full, then shook it up and sprayed the sizing die entry opening & insides before the first run of the bullets thru the Lee sizing dies. do a few bullets, and when they get a little harder to size, spritz again with the mix and repeat. Works fine for me anyway when I am tumble lubing bullets.

I used 45/45/10 lube instead of the straight LLA ( 45/45/10 is my tumble lube of choice) for the second "true" lube coat before seating the bullets, But the system I used would work with both of those lubes and likely other types as well..

Once the bottle ran out of liquid, from use & from just evaporation in between sizing sessions, I just refill it and go to spritzing again..

Worth the try if ya want to try it, IMO. The lanolin came in a tube. I think it was for breast feeding mothers nipples to keep them from being sore or something like that. Got it at a pharmacy anyway. Have to look at the tube downstairs to know more than that right now, but a pharmacy should have the stuff, if ya decide to go the route of lanolin for the sizer lubing pre-tumble lube & save time from doing the tumbling twice..

G'Luck~!

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shootcast posted this 2 hours ago

I have been using LLA  a lot this past year. I used it many years ago shooting IHMSA. I didn’t own a lube/ sizer then. I’m still experimenting but it seems fine in all pistol barrels. I’m having best luck with two coats. Shooting LRH with plain base bullets. Velocities around 1500 FPS without leading. This seems to be the limit. But I can shoot the entire match without cleaning. Accuracy doesn’t seem to be affected. In fact if I clean the first shot maybe two won’t likely even hit the target. 🎯  In rifle barrels I haven’t done well. Possibly at much lower velocities. 

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