I have a Uberti Cattleman revolver. The hand won't turn the cylinder all the time. I disassembled it thinking that a spring had broke. Upon disassembly I discovered there's NO spring that holds the hand forward to revolve the cylinder. The diagram that came with the gun shows the hand but also doesn't show a spring. When the gun was working properly what held the hand to the cylinder.
Some diagrams of Colts shows a spring on the hand.....What am I missing ?
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Greetings,
Browsing eBay for Uberti Cattleman hands I see there are two versions.
The latest uses a coil spring.
My guess is the original had a leaf spring as part of the hand.
Cheers,
Dave
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Probably the spring broke off and fell out of the revolver. That's a common occurrence with the flat handspring. I use a small AR detent with a small coil spring in the top left screw hole in frame. Sometimes the screw and/or the detent needs to be shortened a bit for fit and function. Not difficult to do and once done no more worries about the hand not working.
LMG
Concealment is not cover.........
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Unload the gun. Point the muzzle to the floor and cock the hammer. If cylinder rotates, point it at the ceiling and cock the hammer. If the cylinder rotates when pointed to the floor but did not when pointed to the ceiling, the flat spring on the hand is broken. You can order a new hand/spring from MidwayUSA or another parts supplier.
If you have one of the newer revolvers, there is no flat spring used on the hand as a part of the hand. There is instead a coil spring and plunger located in the left side of the frame which pushes the hand forward under spring pressure. If you have disassembled your revolver with this set-up and removed the hammer without relieving the spring pressure of the hand spring, you may have shot both the plunger and the spring across the room and lost them. New ones will need to be ordered. With the grip removed from the revolver look on the left rear of the frame surface where the grip meets the frame for a third screw underneath the frame screw on the left side. If there is a third screw there, flush with the frame, beneath the grip screw hole, you have one of the newer revolvers. That third screw is where the hand plunger and spring are located. Remove that screw very carefully with a jewelers screwdriver to access the plunger and spring. Keep a cloth over the works when removing the screw so the spring and screw don't shoot out and get lost. That's a teeny tiny screw. Order a spare one soon because you will eventually lose one.
Hopefully you have the original kind with the flat spring as part of the hand. If so, order you a new one. Some CAREFUL FILE WORK may be needed to fit the new hand into the revolver to keep the timing correct. The hand needs to be only as long as needed to get the cylinder rotated in place for the bolt to drop in place. If it's too long, you will beat the bolt all to hell and round out the bolt stop notches. If anything, the new hand will be a touch too long, never too short.
Good luck with the diagnosis and repair.
With rifle in hand, I confidently go forth into the darkness.
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BTW. If you have been fanning the hammer to look cool like a TV Western show, you have completely boogered up your revolver. It will need a new cylinder, a new bolt, a new hand, and a new hammer. Hopefully the bolt slot has not been peened as well. If that's the case, the revolver is junk now.
Always cocking the revolver "normally" without a lot of aggressiveness, will allow a lifetime of service without breaking or peening of internal parts. The faster and harder the cylinder is spun, the harder a time the bolt has of stopping in its proper location. It's all about the inertia of a revolving cylinder in that case. Fanning or real aggressive cocking really screws up a nice revolver.
With rifle in hand, I confidently go forth into the darkness.
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First off, I treat my guns like they're my children. NO abuse, period....
I have an Uberti Cattleman II. After calling Taylor Firearms, I found the spring . It's a small coil spring. When I disassembled the gun the small rod in front of the spring fell out. I found it as it fell onto my mat.. Originally I didn't know where it went. I placed the small tiny rod and spring back in the gun and it runs like a Swiss watch !!!!
Thanks to all of you for your kind assistance and advice. Back to the range now
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Good to hear you treat your guns normally and don't beat them up like some I have seen. You may wish to order two springs, two plungers, and two retaining screws for future use when you eventually shoot one across the room to where socks go. Trust me.
What cast bullets do you use in your Cattleman?
With rifle in hand, I confidently go forth into the darkness.
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