Modifications allowed on Issue Military rifle

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brooksharris posted this 16 April 2022

I would like to attend the National Tournament in June.  I would shoot a 1903 and a 1917.  They are as issued with newish SA and JA barrels. Trigger pulls are awful...heavy, long take-up, and over travel.  Can I have these trigger pulls cleaned up, and if so, is there a weight limit.

Previously I wouldn't have bothered with this question, but my arthritic hands are such that even this mild recoil on top of the heavy pulls have become most uncomfortable.

Blessings for a Happy Resurrection Day, Brooks Harris

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David Reiss posted this 16 April 2022

If not mistaken, you can have action work done, but can't have the parts replaced. But the rules are on our website.

https://castbulletassoc.org/military-rules

 

 

 

 

 

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John Carlson posted this 17 April 2022

[1] Issue - Any military service rifle issued to any nation and legally sold as surplus in the US and in strictly as issued configuration. The only modifications allowed to the Issue rifle are -- front sight height may be raised or lowered as long as the original profile is kept, the sling and swivel may be removed and a slip on recoil pad may be used.

John Carlson. CBA Director of Military Competition.

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M1fuzz posted this 17 April 2022

You can get some trigger work done and shoot it Modified Iron.

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RicinYakima posted this 17 April 2022

The advantage of the '03 is that parts are cheap and plentiful. Look for well used sears and strikers that have been smoothed by 100 years of use. The hunt is on!

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brooksharris posted this 20 April 2022

Thank-you gents.  Years ago as a service rifle competitor we had to abide by a 4 1/2# trigger pull requirement.  Am I in violation of the rules if I have a 'smith reduce take-up and pull to that weight...but doing so on the stock parts?

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Ken Campbell Iowa posted this 20 April 2022

i suppose somewhere there is an " official " specification " for trigger pull, knowing government speak, there may even be more than one specification.

if i were going to compete in cba military i would look that up, then take the rifle completely apart and optimize everything ...  but then i don't understand " as issued " competition .. or " stock " classes ... unless " blueprinting " is allowed.   

just some thoughts, ken

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Bud Hyett posted this 20 April 2022

The only published criteria is for a safe trigger pull. Personally, I do not care as much for the poundage requirement as I do for the crispness of the trigger pull. I'll get used to a 4 1/2 pound pull that is crisp. Also, you can disassemble and polish the inner parts to reduce friction and get a quicker firing pin strike.

The two-stage trigger is in itself a safety feature. You pull until you feel the increased resistance, then settle in for a final sight and squeeze. 

When you rebarrel, you can adjust the length of the chamber and the leade more precisely than an ordnance man in the field. You can get a minimum factory chamber to aid in accuracy.

This has been discussed over the years, as a way to gain an advantage, but there is no way to tell. When you have a Springfield Arsenal receiver with a Smith-Corona barrel, it is rebarreled. If in the field at an ordnance depot during wartime or the local gunsmith during peacetime cannot be told. 

Farm boy from Illinois, living in the magical Pacific Northwest

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brooksharris posted this 21 April 2022

Thank-you all for your generous input. God bless you and our Republic!

Brooks Harris

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John Carlson posted this 21 April 2022

The criteria for the issue class under Military Rules is "strictly as issued configuration".  Folks can (and will) interpret these words differently and I'm not about to get into the business of micro-inspecting every rifle on the line.  However, particularly in issue class, any modification made to provide a competitive advantage is clearly against the spirit if the rules and is therefore not allowed.

 

This is an exception to the "any safe trigger" in the CBA Benchrest rules.

John Carlson. CBA Director of Military Competition.

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brooksharris posted this 21 April 2022

Thank-you John.

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