Is it time for another Groundhog and Rabbit Shoot

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Last Post 14 April 2023

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John Alexander posted this 24 March 2023

Ken wrote:

..and maybe it is time for another groundhog shoot ?? ... I use my 45-70 in those ... room for a HH Mag ....

ken

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.22-10-45 posted this 13 hours ago in another thread

How about having this class in a postal match? The British Rook &Rabbit rifles come to mind..say 50 to 100yds field positions including cross sticks? at rabbit & crow silhouettes.

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For those of you new to this CBA forum, what 22-10-45 described above is EXACTLY what volunteers offered on this forum over the last two or three years.

They got great participation and it seemed that everybody had a good time. There is no reason that such an informal match could't be a continuing feature of this forum. We don't have to just talk about shooting hear we also encouraged some the last couple of years.

All we need is for a few people be willing to give a bit of their time to make it happen.

What do you say?

John

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tony1960 posted this 31 March 2023

Tut tut, both of you guys aren't thinking outside the box....find a tree ALREADY laying down and then shoot standing up along the tree. Don't have to climb and potentially meet the ground unexpectedly at velocity (gravity sucks), a gentle stroll alongside the tree, post target and enjoy the view on the way back to the root system. Jeff wasn't close enough to the earthquake to find any recent fallen and Barra hasn't seen much in the way of cyclones this year.

Enjoy

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beltfed posted this 26 March 2023

How about a Martini Cadet, rebored to 357Mag?

beltfed/arnie

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JeffinNZ posted this 28 March 2023

Apart from the ordeal of having to climb a tall tree to post my target in I’m up for crack at this.

I doubt they will allow me to shoot vertically at the range.

‘But I think I have a location.

Well that's just silly talk. You climb the tree and shoot at the target on the ground. That way you only climb to the tree ONCE! Follow me for more sage advice.

Cheers from New Zealand

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.22-10-45 posted this 25 March 2023

The Brits had special rifles made up by some very famous makers (or in most cases, made up to their standards by smaller firms). The Rook ctg. While acuracy was important, of greater concern was it's lethal range. The Rooks were just leaving the nest and couldn't fly well yet. The target was high in old oak trees, and one didn't want to hit the neighbors cow..or neighbor! A popular caliber was the .360 no.5...very close to the .38 long colt. Later, the .300 Rook & .297/250 were quite popular. Jeffery came out with his own .255 Jeffery which is nothing more than a shortened .25-20 Win. The .22 long & long rifle were never popular at this time (1870-1890) in England..due to its poor performance loaded with black powder.

Are there any rules posted for the Buny match. It would seem any utility rifle used on a farm in the late 19th thru the first few decades of the 20th centuries would qualify. How about the use of revolvers? Elmer Keith wrote he cut his teeth on an old Colt .36 Navy, and later bought a 7 1/2" Colt S.A.A. in .32-20 for small game.

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Lucky1 posted this 29 March 2023

The snow in my trees is still 6 foot deep and another foot on the way, so I've got a head start on the climbing problem. My snowshoes are a bit of a problem though.....

Scott Ingle

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longhunter posted this 30 March 2023

I think we should spread the wealth around. I will give advice to who ever runs it.

I will shoot it.

When I ran it last time. Any rifle worked. Make a special class if you want. I have a fine .310 Cadet that would be fun.

Getter going Boys!!!!

Jon

Jon Welda CW5 USA Ret.

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Ken Campbell Iowa posted this 31 March 2023

geeze, you guys remind me of my ol fishin buddy Dwayne ... guy was too lazy to pick up worms ...take him fishing and he always had to borrow your bait ... " forgot " his ..

i asked him one time why he never married and raised some kids ... he said that here in southern Iowa " there is a tolerable lack of pregnant wimmin " ...

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JeffinNZ posted this 13 April 2023

How many squirrels are shot at 100y?! (Jeff faints).

Cheers from New Zealand

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barra posted this 28 March 2023

Apart from the ordeal of having to climb a tall tree to post my target in I’m up for crack at this.

I doubt they will allow me to shoot vertically at the range.

‘But I think I have a location.

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MarkinEllensburg posted this 13 April 2023

Let's do this. I'll volunteer. We can use these targets https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1014990380?pid=248812

You can buy your own or I can order them and mail two to each shooter. $3.50 gets you two targets. postage paid to you, however I would like to get a count soon so as to be able to order enough to meet demand.

I suggest one shot at each bull and critter with any cast bullet rifle, any field position. One target each at 50 and 100 yards.

@Fitzpatrick if you are willing we could have everyone mail completed targets to you by June 15. You can score them, diamond in middle is X, black center is ten, first ring out is 9 outside of that is 8, off bull circle is 0. Critters is special closest to center, number of participants equals the score on each, add all 4 scores together for overall ranking. For example 10 shooters, dead center hit by just one shooter scores 10 points, Next closest scores 9 points farthest away 1 point.

This assumes we finalize and I order by 4-14, mail targets to shooters by 5-1.

Thoughts? In or not? Deadline for entry with me supplying target is 4-14, after that any shooter that wants to purchase same target on their own is welcome to shoot and submit by the deadline.

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barra posted this 14 April 2023

I will be away and not be able to shoot the skwerls witcha,

But if I get a chance I might have a go at some of our "field mice" if I get a chance.

Don’t think they grow big as skwerls thou.

I’ll sit back and watch the rest of you’s this time.

Bruce.

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Waleone posted this 14 April 2023

Some more thoughts I have for these 'Informal Postal Shoots'. With any luck this will help make these shoots easier to organize and run;

All individual shoots to be announced in the Forum. Hopefully, this will increase Forum usage.
Individual shoot organizer to monitor Forum thread for that shoot, correcting info and requesting more info from posters as needed.
Post a general announcement on the availability of these shoots in The Fouling Shot. Hopefully, this will result in more members signing up for Forum access.
Keep with target size at 8-1/2" x 11". Most everyone these days has a printer capable of printing this size or knows someone who can print for them. Portrait or landscape orientation is acceptable. There are lots of suitable targets with scoring rings on the internet that we can save.
These shoots could be club sponsored. I'm certain I could gather enough CBA members at my club to make short work of scoring. And now that the Tamaqua Rifle and Pistol Club actually has a mailbox, targets could be mailed there for scoring.
I suggest a $5 fee per target goes to the CBA. We may as well help keep the association going and pay for website and Forum usage to support this effort. Individual shoot organizers can set additional fees to cover their costs as needed, if it gets ridiculous participation in their shoots will decline and organizers will get the message.
Shooters must post on the individual shoot thread on the Forum when mailing in targets, noting how many targets they are submitting for scoring. This will help the CBA audit shoots to ensure fees are being submitted in a timely manner.
Post a general announcement on the availability of these shoots in The Fouling Shot. Hopefully, this will result in more members signing up for Forum access.
Since postal matches require honesty from all involved, lets keep the general rules focused on maintaining that. Shoot organizers can set guidelines as they desire for their individual shoots.

Wayne

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Tom Acheson posted this 14 April 2023

Just practical advice. I got involved in setting up an early “bunny gun” postal. (still not sure what defines a bunny gun) One of our posters had all kinds of suggestions as how to structure the match. Each month a different shooting position or shooting distance or equipment limitation, etc. Lots of suggestions, but….the guy with all the suggestions never shot the march!

So if someone steps-up to take the leadership role, support him and PARTICIPATE. These forum postals are informal and are not an extension of the current CBA Postal program. I can recall when Jim Scearcy and Ken (from Iowa) set up the Groundhog postal. Jim told me he wanted to keep it much simpler than the CBA Benchrest match rules…..and he did. It takes time and effort to run a match so the reward for the “volunteer” is a strong turnout.

However, if an experimental postal gets traction, it could be added to the CBA Postal program as a trial event.

The advice…if you have rule or shooting suggestions for the Forum Postal, be sure you participate. Free advice is worth exactly what you pay for it. These postals NEED participants, so if you have an interest and think so and so should apply, be sure to order the target and shoot!

Tom

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MarkinEllensburg posted this 14 April 2023

I don't want to come across as a curmudgeon but seriously folks after 3 weeks of no one taking the lead I did. I set out the parameters for shoot, identified our target and gave @Fitzpatrick the opportunity to help as he said he wanted to.

Folks wanting shorter distances are welcome to organize their own shoot, please do so.

@Waleone self print targets of 8.5 x 11 are an option for any future matches if that is what the "match director" decides. Thanks for taking the time to formulate rules you think should be used. There is a formal Class and rule change submission process outlined in our Bi-laws and Rules of Competition. Informal postal or forum matches are just that, informal. Donations to the CBA are welcome. Asking someone to collect and forward funds and also run a match that is informal almost guarantees no one will step forward and volunteer. Stepping forward to run an informal match is a great way to volunteer to help out our membership and to see if maybe you want to pursue more formal volunteerism in our organization.

Since this thread has become so long and encumbered with several tangents I will start a new topic.

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Fitzpatrick posted this 24 March 2023

I am always game for a shoot , If you need help let me know where and how and I will be willing

James

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Ken Campbell Iowa posted this 25 March 2023

...since it is a weekend ... we could have fun thinking about another groundhog/rabbit/crow/? ... shoot ... i have been thinking about a rabbit shoot for

rook rifles .

but there my brain gets clouded ... what would a rook rifle be ? ... a short cartridge at least 25 caliber ? ... maybe 44-40 length max ... no autoloaders ?? ... ...

help me out here ... i think i have peaked out ... ken

edit :; oh, i guess a rook rifle shoot should shoot at a ROOK target ... i told you i was peaked out ...