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sandwman posted this 09 January 2025

Just talked to a good friend that lost his home and business in the fires. He was able to save all his firearms, but lost all reloading equipment and components. He said the sentiment of those there is that the government is to blame from lack of preparedness. My heart breaks for them. 

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BJung posted this 10 January 2025

That's good he saved his firearms. I lost 2 Swiss rifles in a CA fire. The temperature was so high that the engine blocks melted.

Yes, Newsom is to blame and he should be sued for it.

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Premod70 posted this 10 January 2025

Not trying to be smart but I would never plant my roots in a place where the houses are that close to one another. Now the lack of water pressure should have never been a concern with a responsible government, if so, those houses should never been allowed to be built in the first place.

Forrest Gump is my smarter brother.

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delmarskid posted this 10 January 2025

My nephew is in charge of a crew working on the fires. He’s from Susanville in the north. He’s been a busy man for far too long.

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Brodie posted this 10 January 2025

I lived in that pest hole for over 50 years until my wife wanted to come to AZ so she could be near her mother.  We have just as bad a fire problem here as they do in CA, but at least we have a Forest Service and BLM that will listen.  They have been trimming and grooming the Forest near my home for about four to six years now.  Nobody wants to lose their home or burn up in a conflagration.  

Those fires in LA County are completely the fault of the state Government. They absolutely refuse to cut fire breaks on those hillsides, and as a result, once they start in that chaparral, the fires just get bigger and bigger. The hotshots around here tell me that none of them wanted to be sent to California during fire season because the fires were so much worse out in California.  And, it will stay like it is until the people of Calif. dump those idiots in Sacramento and put in some folks who will do the job that is necessary.

B.E.Brickey

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sandwman posted this 10 January 2025

He received a warning about an hour or so ahead of time. He and his wife were also able to save many family heirlooms, but as you might expect, it is not enough in the wake of this tragedy, I told him to make a list of items he lost and I would see what I could do to try to help him replace the items..  

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sandwman posted this 10 January 2025

Not trying to be smart but I would never plant my roots in a place where the houses are that close to one another. Now the lack of water pressure should have never been a concern with a responsible government, if so, those houses should never been allowed to be built in the first place.

Your not being smart, but uninformed. My friend was living in the home that his farther built in 1959 and the business he lost was one his father had also started in the 1950s and with the help of his son they built it up to what is was before the fires came. They were not rich men as they owned a plumbing supply business.  

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Eutectic posted this 10 January 2025

The home insurance companies are bailing from CA. You will not be able to get insurance and if you do find a carrier it will be so expensive you cannot afford it.

Politicians in Sacramento have been warned about this for years and told what to do about it. They will blame global warming and go on wasting tax dollars on worthless socialist projects.

 California voters did this and it will continue until they change. The only thing a rational person can do is LEAVE and many are doing just that.

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BJung posted this 12 January 2025

The houses that are THE house they reply on to live in are the most effected compared to the rich actors who own other properties and have investment properties. My theory in the past is that the Liberals don't believe Common People deserve to live in the wilderness but in the cities. Only their Liberal Contacts and Rich can live there. They don't care if the others get burned out.

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Ed Harris posted this 12 January 2025

An important distinction is the difference in construction methods. In much of Europe houses are constructed of brick, stone or concrete with tile roofs. Most houses in the US and Canada are wood frame with vinyl or plywood siding and asphalt shingles. Less often with fire resistant construction.

73 de KE4SKY In Home Mix We Trust From the Home of Ed's Red in "Almost Heaven" West Virginia

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RicinYakima posted this 12 January 2025

FD Captain I worked for was married to a Swiss lady whose brother was an architect in Switzerland. There architects are the general contractors for building from new are few when built from scratch, mostly remodeled. Anyway, their standard is the building has to be designed for 500 years! In the US it is 40 years. Stone, brick and reinforced concrete are the basic materials for walls with slate or concrete shingles. 

Not going to happen here, as it would at least double the cost of building. 

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OU812 posted this 12 January 2025

During the fires my son was on business trip in San Bernardino just a few miles east of Los Angeles. Temps were around 67 degrees and winds were blowing up to 80 miles per hour at times. His flight back to Georgia was delayed several hours until winds subsided. Sana Ana winds I think they are called...some of the worst ever. He could see the smoke in distance and stated it was beautiful there.

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sandwman posted this 13 January 2025

I just read that there are fire crews there from out of state ready to go to work, but California is holding the firetrucks up because they want to make sure they are up to California's emission standards. For example Oregon sent 68 crews/trucks that are sitting unused. 

Totally insane and mismanaged government. 

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RicinYakima posted this 13 January 2025

This is not true, but disinformation. Cal-Fire only inspects them for being up on maintenance to go to work.  

Talked to FF's from SE Washington Response teams that just were sent to staging for assignment. 

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rmrix posted this 13 January 2025

Meanwhile, Tired firefighters are doing their best to save lives and protect property without asking about their politics first.

In the fire service we have an expression, "designed by disaster" which directs how agencies, cities and developers get to operate in the future, and yes, I am sure this will be a wake up call for some voters.

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Tom Acheson posted this 13 January 2025

This is a horrible disaster that leaves an outsider wondering just how it could be so callously mismanaged. 

As Sandman noted....out-of-state help is being held-up due to concern for "emmission standards". People are more important than emission standards and some fish on the edge of extinction. Environmentalists must be pushed aside, told to shut up and get out of the way, including their professional elitist government class "leaders". People rule, not some groups with a people hating cause.

Tom

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John Alexander posted this 13 January 2025

As Sandman noted....out-of-state help is being held-up due to concern for "emmission standards". 

Ric has already debunked that claim in his post.  

John

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Tom Acheson posted this 13 January 2025

So is it also untrue that reservoir water is being diverted to the Pacific to protect a fish? 

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John Alexander posted this 13 January 2025

 It also sounds far fetched, but I don't know. If it came from the internet, who knows?

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RicinYakima posted this 13 January 2025

Partially true. Except the water is from the Klamath River that goes into the Pacific Ocean north of San Francisco with no way to get it to southern California.

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RicinYakima posted this 13 January 2025

Further research shows that there is only one fish diversion in all of southern CA, the Robles Fish Passage. It is used in the spring time to allow steelhead trout to get above the dam. 

However the Santa Clara River flows west of Los Angles in Ventura County, closer to Santa Barbara,  and is not connected to the Los Angles County water system. 

FWIW

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