32 acp observations.

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Istoic posted this 20 February 2026

 

I loaded the "Slippery" coated bullets 78 grain .313 flat point over 3.0 gr. of Auto Comp during the bad weather and finally got to the range to test them. I resized the bullets to .311.  Although they say that they weigh 78 gr. they actually weigh 80 grains. 

Tested for accuracy at 20 yards using a CZ-70 they shot a nice round two-inch group.  They chronographed 1088 fps, 53 ES and 16 SD from the 8 shots fired. I say 3.0 grains of Auto comp using a "0" Little Dandy rotor, but sometimes my scale says 3.1.  They felt hot but the brass didn't show any obvious signs of impending peril except the CZ through the cases very far away.  Farther than usual.

They are seated too deep. I have 10 or so left so I'll shoot them in a .327 revolver.  Next batch I'll expose the crimp groove and catch two bands and seat them as far as possible to still load in a 32-auto magazine. Hopefully seating them farther out will reduce that 1088 fps velocity down some along with any excess pressure.  I wouldn't dare shoot these in my Tomcat Inox.  I probably should try the "00" rotor next as the auto comp powder in the 32 seems to have decent extreme spread over other usual 32 auto powders. The same coated flat point 80 grain bullet over 2.2 grains of Bullseye registered 906-35-12 from the CZ and was very accurate. The 71 gr. Berry's over 2.2 grains of Bullseye registered 846-68-20 from the CZ. It is odd how the 71-grain plated bullet was so much slower than the 80-gr flat point coated lead bullet with the same 2.2 Bullseye load in the same barrel (CZ-70)

I then fired the 71 fmj Berry's over the same 3.0 auto comp and they chronographed 982-57-19. from the CZ-70.  So, the 3.0 auto comp load is euro spec, but I suspect a regular FMJ would be slower than these plated Berry's.

For what it is worth the surplus 73 gr. S&B steel core in the in the Tomcat Inox registered 932-78-28. The Fiocchi 73 grain purported 1000 fps load registered 913-122-34 from the Tomcat Inox.  The 71 gr. Berry's over 2.2 gr. of Bullseye registered 713-64-18 from the Tomcat. 

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Istoic posted this 20 February 2026

Here are those 32 bullets from "Slippery"

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Ed Harris posted this 21 February 2026

Thanks for posting the data. If cartridge OAL is 0.95" or longer pressure should be OK. The 93-grain Remington .308 FMJ with 3 grains Autocomp at 0.979" OAL tested 895 fps at 21,200 psi in Larry Gibson's Contender pistol. I get similar velocity in my Colt M1903 Type III.

73 de KE4SKY In Home Mix We Trust From the Home of Ed's Red in "Almost Heaven" West Virginia

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Istoic posted this 21 February 2026

Thanks Ed.  But it looks like these bullets will have to be relegated for use in 32 revolvers. At anything longer than .900 OAL in my 32 autos they cram into the rifling leade hard either in the Tomcat or CZ.  At .943 OAL with 2.0 grains of Bullseye, tipping up the barrel you cannot chamber in the Tomcat let alone close the barrel.  That band forward of the crimp groove in the photo above is the culprit. They will make an excellent revolver bullet though I do believe.  The 10 I just loaded; I'll fire them in a 327 Taurus to free up the brass.

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Ed Harris posted this 24 February 2026

Accurate 31-081H is my design for short throated .32 ACP pistols. But I prefer 31-090B if bullets chamber freely and unfired loaded rounds extract without issue.

73 de KE4SKY In Home Mix We Trust From the Home of Ed's Red in "Almost Heaven" West Virginia

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Istoic posted this 24 February 2026

That is good to know.  It looks like both my Tomcat Inox and CZ-70 needs bullets that the ogive starts it's tapering external to the case mouth. The only bullet I have that works like it is supposed to is the Berry's 71 plated.  The Lee 93 grain RN is tight in the throat.

I have yet to try (in the CZ-70) the Hornady swaged 90 SWC.  I have some I resized to .311 and tumble lubed them.  I also have the Lee 90 grain SWC TL bullet which I plated zombie green and resized to .311 also but now they weigh 94.7 grains nominal.

I keep messing with 32 guns.  First the 32 S&L long, then the 32-20 in a Smith M&P add to that the 327 magnum. Now the 32 auto.

I wonder what causes the attraction.

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JimmyDee posted this 24 February 2026

32s are habit-forming.  Besides Colt Police Positive 32-20s, S&W 31 32 Long, and a pair of Ruger 327 Federals, I've putzed with lots of 32 ACP: Colt 1903s, Walther PPs/PPKs, Berettas, KelTecs, FEGs, Llamas, and various clones: I wish I could spend more time with them.

(327 Federal jacketed is crazy hot: up to 60,000 PSI!  Impractical for cast bullets.  No need for that much case capacity, IMO.)

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RicinYakima posted this 25 February 2026

They can be accurate, light recoil and fun to shoot. 

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Eddie Southgate posted this 10 March 2026

Accurate 31-081H is my design for short throated .32 ACP pistols. But I prefer 31-090B if bullets chamber freely and unfired loaded rounds extract without issue.
Will both in your experience work well in the Beretta 81BB ?

Grumpy Old Man With A Gun......Do Not Touch .

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Ed Harris posted this 11 March 2026

Either bullet should work.

73 de KE4SKY In Home Mix We Trust From the Home of Ed's Red in "Almost Heaven" West Virginia

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