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Ross Smith posted this 24 March 2025

I've always been plagued by flyers. I know this is a quirky subject. I always seem to have a few really wild shots no matter which gun or ammo. Even in rifles that I don't expect much accuracy some shots go in orbit. I'm wondering if my floaters are causing an occaisional shift in my aim?

Any thoughts or experiences. I accept that my trigger finger is my usual culprit, but this goes beyond that.

I'm going in for new glasses soon.

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RicinYakima posted this 24 March 2025

Ross,

Don't know about floaters specifically, but when I was practicing for my last Nationals in 2019, I had my head on the stock. Really locked in and watching the wind flags when I noticed the cross hairs were wobbling around the X ring. 

Talked to my Eye Doc and he said it was a combination of cataracts, inter-eye pressure and beginning ocular degeneration. All unfixable at my age. So that was the end of match shooting for me. 

Ric

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sandwman posted this 24 March 2025

Ross I have the same issues.

I think it should be noted that it is very hard to find an eye doctor who really understands the needs of a shooter.

Over the past three years I have been to three different doctors with none ever solving my sighting issues. You can just tell when they have this lost stare on their faces as you explain to them about what you need.

I really wish I could find one that is also a shooter. 

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oscarflytyer posted this 24 March 2025

Ross,

Don't know about floaters specifically, but when I was practicing for my last Nationals in 2019, I had my head on the stock. Really locked in and watching the wind flags when I noticed the cross hairs were wobbling around the X ring. 

Talked to my Eye Doc and he said it was a combination of cataracts, inter-eye pressure and beginning ocular degeneration. All unfixable at my age. So that was the end of match shooting for me. 

Ric

 

Damn Ric.  Kinda wish I hadn't seen/read this...  I don't much scope these days/shoot mostly peeps that I can still use on levers/buckhorns are a total No Go.  But it seems when I occasionally DO shoot a scope, I am struggling with 'dancing crosshairs."  And, have been told I have early onset Cataracts.  Ocular Degen goes without saying.  kinda just sucks for me, I guess.  And, also time to have eyes re-eval'd for Cataracts too I guess.  

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RicinYakima posted this 24 March 2025

So sorry! Should have done more shooting when you were younger!!big_grin

There are no work arounds to make them 40 YO eyes again, but you can do decent shooting with concentration. I won the CBA Military Issue with an 03A3 in 2015 (age 67) and Modified Iron Sight in 2016 (age 68) but has been down hill since then. 

Now with my CZ 223, I can just keep them within one MOA with a Leupold 6X scope at 100 yards. When I bought the rifle it was a sub .5 MOA shooter with the same loads. 

 

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Tom Acheson posted this 24 March 2025

Interesting timing on this.

 

I had my annual vision exam this past Friday. My doctor is a shooter. Not a serious competitive shooter but enjoys taking his son out to shoot handguns and bolt action rifles in a local gravel pit near their cabin. I showed him a photo of one our CBA shooters @ the bench with a scoped bolt action rifle. The doctor said custom glasses/lens wouldn’t be beneficial. 

 

I also showed him a photo of me shooting my replica Model 74 Sharps with iron sights and he said the distance from the eye to the far globe aperture sight was far enough that again, custom glasses might not have a discernible impact. In that case we are trying to align (4) circles…eye, rear aperture, front globe sight and target

 

I showed him a third photo, this time me shooting offhand my S&W Model 57 .41 Mag. We discussed the challenge of focusing on the front sight and the target at the same time. He said young eyes are often capable of doing that, but not old eyes. He said the options are to sharpen in focus of the front sight OR the target. Custom glasses could be used but they sometimes are difficult to take full advantage of, getting lined-up, etc. I mentioned my Merit optical device that has a suction cup to affix it to the glasses and he suggested that is probably my best option. For some unknown reason I have two Merit devices….can only use one!

 

Cataracts, the start of,  are something he pointed out 2-years ago. Today they have not changed much but he did caution me that 5-7 years from now I’ll probably need the one-time surgery. He said everyone usually needs to undergo it, just a matter of when. Can hardly wait.

 

Tom

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Capt45 posted this 26 March 2025

I don't know how old you are Ric, but I'm 79 and just had a Cataract removed from my shooting eye last month and the clarity and brightness was immediately (like the same day) was extraordinary.  I too have floaters, an especially large one in my non shooting eye that makes blinking with abundance a pastime. While I haven't been Dx.d with macular degeneration or increased intraocular pressure I know that the pressure thing can be control'd with drops. I've had to go through all my scoped rifles adjusting the focal settings.

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RicinYakima posted this 26 March 2025

I'm 77 and the cataracts aren't bad enough, yet, for Medicare to pay to have them removed. I've had high intraocular numbers the last 10 years related to geriatric diabetes. The eye drops had to many side affects to be useful for me. So I just keep plinking away and remember my match shooting days with fondness. 

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Wm Cook posted this 26 March 2025

Rick I'd suggest going to your Ophthalmologists and tell them that you can barely read the highway road signs any more (maybe you're already struggling with this??).  Ophthalmologist have control over when surgery is "nice to have" or when its "critical for your safety" and for the safety of others on the road.    I went from a no, no, no to a yes just that fast.  I had to have mine done for the sake of safety.  I still have trouble with double vision.  The muscles in the eyes are shot from looking at computer screens for 40 years.  So far its correctable by prescription glasses but its like looking at a 100 bull with on a hot day with soupy wicked mirage.  Bill C

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Ed Harris posted this 26 March 2025

I've been lucky I guess. I am 76. Eye Doc is retinal and glaucoma specialist. Have had cataract surgery in both eyes which went well. Also had a laser procedure to help mitigate intraocular pressure. Still use Azopt drops twice daily and Latanoprost at night, but pressures remain stable <15 in both eyes. See iron sights like a 20 year old.

73 de KE4SKY In Home Mix We Trust From the Home of Ed's Red in "Almost Heaven" West Virginia

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Bud Hyett posted this 26 March 2025

Turned 80 in December and have used a separate pair of glasses for shooting for the last two decades. My opthamologist prescribed these after I explained my needs. She is not a shooter but understood what I asked. They definitely make a difference, a slight difference but definite. The crosshairs are sharper and the front sight is again in focus. The revolver sights are again in focus. I've also had cataract surgery a decade ago. It was successful.

When I was twenty I was caught in a fire and went blind as a result. Hospitalized for 24 days, they kept me in a darkedned room in the hospital. This was because the flash of the explosion had affected my eyesight. When released, I was told not to go into bright sunlight without dark sunglasses. 

They did not tell me not to stand in the windows and stare into brightly sunlit fields. Walking across the living room, first my left eye went totally dark and then the right eye went totally dark. The opthamoligist said the optic nerve failed and my eyesight would come back. He also said I would not need glasses until I was 50. It was at 49 years and 10 months I could no longer read the newpaper except at arms length. He was right.  

Farm boy from Illinois, living in the magical Pacific Northwest

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MP1886 posted this 26 March 2025

How many of you have had a cornea transplant? I'm needing one in my left eye and I'm reluctant to get it. Now cataracts they have down pat. A cornea transplant is much more serious. 

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