Hi all, Against my better judgment I bought a Lee product and landed on the bench prime tool. When priming some 223, it seated the primer where it's supposed to be, but in the process it actually sheared the side wall of the primer out of the pocket. I took an exacto knife and trimmed it off. The case is seated at the correct depth and by looking at it you would never know what happened. Do any of you have experience with this scenario, and if so, did you have any problems with firing the cartridge? ie duds, blow outs, etc
Side of primer sheared when seating
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I have been using Lee priming tools for as long as they have been on the market for all my priming and have never see such a thing.
Was that one primer? All primers? Some of the primers?
If it wasn't a one shot event, I suggest you call Lee. I have always had excellent service from them.
John
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Are these military style with crimped in primers? Crimped primers must be either reamed or swadged to remove the crimp. If you have compromised the primer skirt, I would avoid shooting these cartridges.
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Like Duane said;could be done by a case which had a crimp around the primer pocket.
Another problem I once ran into;foreign made primers.Us work in Imperial measurements while europeans work in metrics.I once had many problems seating S&B primers in my Dillon.One of my friend had the same problem(same press,same primers).In both cases,we measured the diameter and height of the primers and there was a slight difference compared with US made primers.
Might be the press.I have 5 and one of them had some problems.And no,it wasn't the Lee.But this goes to show that it could be the press.Afterall,I always thought that perfection existed but nopody is berfect!
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Ha ha, I saw what you did there......... :-)
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Did you load and use those rounds or scrap the primers?
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I use almost exclusively Lee products. I haven't had a problem like this with either the hand priming system or the on press priming system. If you think it is a problem with the equipment, call or email Lee and they will take care of you. I had the lid of one of the hand primer trays fail, contacted Lee and they sent a new tray to me free. I also had one of the drums for the auto drum powder measure fail, made contact and received a new part free.
As to your malfunction, I would ask as above. Is it military type brass, if so it may need to be reamed or swaged to remove the primer pocket crimp.
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Reaming or swaging primer pockets is something I look at the 1st time I load any brass.
I use a primer pocket Reamer. About 30yrs ago I gave Myself permanent tennis elbow in My right arm using an RCBS primer pocket swager on 2,000 G.I. .45ACP cases. So reaming is the only way for Me.
I cut out the crimp with an old pocket knife when I was a kid. Bought both hand primer pocket reamers from Lyman about 1975. Now I use a powered Lyman Case Express. It set up right behind My powered Lyman Case Trimmer. Kill 2 birds with one stone.
If Neccasary I can trim first.
I hand prime using the RCBS Hand Priming tool.
I wore out 2 Lee Hand Priming tools, and they were kept well lubed too.
Long time Caster/Reloader, Getting back into it after almost 10yrs. Life Member NRA 40+yrs, Life S.A.S.S. #375. Does this mean a description of me as a fumble-fingered knuckle-draggin' baboon. I also drool in my sleep. I firmly believe that true happiness is a warm gun. Did I mention how much I HATE auto-correct on this blasted tablet.
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Hiya!
I had a similar thing happen to me once, but it "was" due to my not noticing a crimped primer pocket in some mixed cases I was using up to finish off a run of 50 of the same mnfr. cases. I set the one aside that had the primer semi "squished"/damaged, and looked over the other odd cases & found 2 more that had crimps.
(The damaged primed case was not looking like what you described, but instead had a part of the side of the primer sticking out above the case head so it would not have been usable at all.)
So, I took the large primer reamer "bit" out my Lyman case tool and put it into a drill like a bit & reamed out the ones that had the crimp & then took the case with the messed up primer & removed it carefully with the sizing die, and reamed that case as well.
Then continued to load the other 49. I did save the case though, so it was not really much of an issue but for a wasted primer I could not use. I made a load noise with it later on with a hammer & a chunk of steel RR track for an anvil. Kind of like a kid & a roll of cap gun caps. ;-) Safety precautions used.
My own suggestion about this would be that , to me, it is not worth the possible trouble of trying to use that primer and perhaps cause an issue I do not want to have with a possibility of ruining a fun session of shooting/hunting/etc. IF there was a problem.
I would go the route I took & just carefully remove the primer & re-use the case after it is reamed, or if ya don't want to try to remove it now, then just put it into the firearm ya were loading for & fire off just the primer with NO Load in the case to make sure there is minimal or no pressure, when ya do go to shoot the other rounds.
That way no bad issue should be a result from setting off the primer & you can still use the case later.
Either way that ya might choose to deal with the damaged primer would remove the possibility of damage to the firearm or you/others by trying to shoot a loaded round with a damaged primer.
The cost of one primer is not worth the chance of a possible issue that perhaps could occur & safety wise for me, the firearm & folks around me if there were any, I think it would be the better choice to deal with it in a non loaded case.
Up to you of course.
G'Luck regardless of your choice on how to deal with this.
:-)
P.S. - I saw now that I am posting almost a week after the OP posted. Maybe the situation has already been taken care of, but I will leave the comment I made anyway. :-)
P.P.S. - I have been informed by another member that this was an old post from 2020, and I am a year & a week late. Oh well. Leaving it anyway. LOL :-D
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