Paper Cartridges

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Aaron posted this 22 December 2025

Rolled some paper cartridges for the Colt Walker (Uberti) with the Eras Gone "Colt Dragoon" bullet. These weigh in at 260gr and the rolled cartridge is 1.840" long. These sport 40gr of FFFG black powder for a respectable punch.

I also rolled some 44 Caliber cartridges for the family of 44's. These sport the Eras Gone 217gr Johnston and Dow bullets over 25gr of FFFG powder.

Coffee filters work fine for these cartridges as does the 9# paper used for paper jackets with brass cartridges. The coffee filters are a lot less expensive than the 9# onion skin paper too.

If you shoot Cap & Ball revolvers and haven't tried rolling your own paper cartridges, you are missing out on some fun.

 

With rifle in hand, I confidently go forth into the darkness.

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beemer posted this 22 December 2025

Good many years back I shot C&B pistols a LOT, mostly 36 cal. Although I mostly shot loose powder I did make a good many paper cartridges for them. I bought a can of potassium nitrate from the drug store and made nitrated paper using onion skin paper, Paper was wrapped around a tapered dowel for proper size and shape. a tiny smear of glue and everything was assembled. It was great fun. 

I don't even have one now. Funny thing about them, if properly loaded they are accurate and reliable You are good as anybody till it's empty. Good reason to carry 5-6 revolvers.

An open top Colt is one of the most beautiful pistols ever made.

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hporter posted this 23 December 2025

Aaron, are you using a homemade mandrel, or a kit to roll the cartridges?

I bought the Johnston and Dow mold from Era's Gone last year and have a pile of them cast up.

I have made quite a few cartridges for my 1859 Sharps carbine.  I started with homemade mandrels and then bought a kit.  The kit makes it much easier, but doing them with the homemade tools worked very well too.

What are the approximate dimensions of your rolling mandrel?  I might chuck a wood dowel in my drill press and form one up over Christmas and get those Johnston and Dow's loaded up.

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Aaron posted this 23 December 2025

As member Wilderness likes to remind us, "You are only as good as your library" so like him I went and acquired all the published material I could on the paper cartridge making subject. My first paperback was the book How to Make Cap and Ball Revolver Cartridges and Packets by John Gurnee, ISBN: 9781523205646. His publication has some wonderful dimensions on making cardboard packages for the produced cartridges as well as label templates.

I started with a homemade mandrel produced crudely with sandpaper and blades since I have no lathe nor any friends with a woodworking lathe. My crudely produced wooden mandrel obviated the drawbacks of a simple mandrel with no forming sheath like the now available commercial 3-D printed ones made of plastic. Wooden mandrels need constant waxing to prevent paper from adhering to them and wear quickly at the cut line from constant cutting with a razor blade. While a wooden mandrel produced on a lathe will work a lot better than my cave-man one, they do have drawbacks except for the pride of using one you made yourself.

To support small businesses in our hobby and to take advantage of material improvements I then bought some commercial tools made by Balazs Nemeth of CapandBall fame, Dustin Weinegar of Guns of the West, and finally, tools made with Crossen Cartridge mandrills.  The former from CapandBall when first ordered a few years ago was wooden. Now I think his mandril former is 3-D printed plastic with a wooden former sheath.

The plastic tools work far better than wooden ones since the cartridge paper doesn't glue itself to the wood tool. The tool produced by Dustin (Guns of the West) is probably the one I use the most since I can use either coffee filters, 9# paper patch paper, or any paper that will burn. I do NOT treat the paper with nitrate since it has NO EFFECT on chamber residue. You still have gobs of paper residue after firing with or without the treatment. 

The tool produced by Crossen Cartridges is an amazing thing. That man is genius and his tools reflect this. Lots of thought went into them and his Cartridge Kits have everything you will need to make the cartridges and their respective boxes. For museum grade product, this is the way to go and frankly, the mandrel with his provided treated papers, ready to roll, is by far the easiest to use. Length of the cartridge can't be modified however for various bullets. The Johnston & Dow bullet in 44 and the Colt Cartridge bullet in 36 caliber are the ones his former and papers are made for. Even using my own paper, the trim lines on the forming mandrel necessitate trimming at a specific location for those mentioned bullets. 

I'm sure an internet search will reveal at least a dozen commercially produced cartridge formers on the market by now. The homemade wooden dowel tool is the easiest to make yourself. Keep that rascal waxed!

 

With rifle in hand, I confidently go forth into the darkness.

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hporter posted this 23 December 2025

Aaron,

Thank you for sharing that.  My tool I bought for my 1859 Sharps is from Crossen.  I have both the Era's Gone Sharps bullets, though Crossen designed his crimper only for the new one.  When I did my chamber measurements, all of my Sharps bullets including the ringtail designs were the appropriate length for his tool.

I had wrapped my old mandrels with the shiny HVAC tape, that did a great job releasing the paper from the mandrel.  But you are right, the new 3D printed mandrels work better.

Crossen's new design for the Sharps, with the o-ring to hold the end cap in place while sliding it into the cartridge tube works wonderfully.  I made 40 paper hulls with it a couple weeks ago.  I need to sit down with my B&M powder thrower and get to seating bullets over Christmas.

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longhunter posted this 27 December 2025

Great Post.

Thanks

Jon

Jon Welda CW5 USA Ret.

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Aaron posted this 27 December 2025

Santa brought me the Eras Gone 36 Colt Navy bullet mold for Christmas and of course I was out in the shed that afternoon warming it up. The first cast produced usable bullets and I let her rip for about an hour of casting. These bullets, with their generous rebated base, roll into paper cartridges beautifully. I used the Crossen cartridge former with the provided pre-cut nitrated papers. Rolling cartridges with that former and the ready-made papers really streamlines the works. Here is the result. A 36 caliber 140gr bullet atop of 17gr FFFG black powder. Ready to load.

 

With rifle in hand, I confidently go forth into the darkness.

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