Liquid lube

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shootcast posted this 03 January 2026

It’s been a very long time since I used LLA. I never had a Lube/sizer. Other than that puff of smoke it seemed to work okay. I always thought it was great in T/C pistols. I was never quite sure in rifles.  Now I’m back to trying it again. There does seem to be a velocity window that it works. No one or no one admits they are using it in competition. I have shot it plain base up to about 1500 fps with equal for me results. I have one load showing promise gas checked in a rifle at 1650 fps. I have been stumped with consistency. Nothing works well. 
I’m sure someone has put a lot of time testing this in rifle loads. But who and what results.

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steveu posted this 03 January 2026

I have been using Ben’s liquid lube and so far it seems to work for me. I shoot mostly pb bullets at 1500 or less with WW+2% air cooled.
I shot some Lee tumble lube bullets out of my 308 today with 2 coats on the bullets and was very happy with the results.

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shootcast posted this 03 January 2026

I have been on that website and understand many folks really like Ben’s lube. I wanted to make some up after hearing all the good reports. By the time I found out about it Johnson’s stopped selling the liquid floor wax. Not sure what the new formula is ? For several years I have bought lube from White Label. Family business that treat folks good. I’m not condemning there lube as I don’t know if it’s a lube problem I have or not. I just got to thinking that because the original alox isn’t produced that possibly the substitute isn’t as good on the accuracy end. The never ending search. 
I also shoot either w/wts. & tin or usually also add some Lino to the mix. Been experimenting with air cooled and quenched at various pressure / velocity. Just about anything works good enough for hunting loads out to 100 yards or so. But trying to shoot 1 moa and hopefully less isn’t working for me. I do make my own gas checks but have swapped out for Hornady with no improvements. Light loads shoot as good or better without gas checks. I’m just stumped.

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Lucky1 posted this 03 January 2026

There may be more using it in matches than you think. I have some bullets that I use the Lee push through sizer so I have to tumble lube those. If you look at Dakota Benchrest matches you may see some listed as using Turtle-snot etc. Half Alox and half Turtle Wax carnuba that is thinned to put it on. Disgusting green color gives it it's name but it appears to do the job. My Partner in Crime is a belt and suspenders kind of guy that lubrisizes some loads and paints an alox blend on the noses. He shoots really well so who am I to argue.

Scott Ingle

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porthos posted this 03 January 2026

what is the formula using  johnsons liquid floor wax. i have a couple of cans on the shelf???

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shootcast posted this 03 January 2026

You can google Ben’s liquid lube

60 percent LLA

40 percent Johnsons Liquid floor wax

shake well

said to be similar to 45/45/10

drys quicker with no sticky stuff to clog up dies or collect dirt etc.

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Ed Harris posted this 11 January 2026

Years ago at Ruger I dissolved and blended a pound can of Johnson's Paste Wax into a half gallon of aliphatic mineral spirits. We used this to bulk lube .38 Special bullets for standard pressure loads. I used a .30 cal ammo can as a bulk measure for the bullets, pouring these into a .50 cal can to have room to agitate, then pouring in 1/3 cup of the mix, snapping the lid shut and agitating as I do now for LLA. Worked great.

73 de KE4SKY In Home Mix We Trust From the Home of Ed's Red in "Almost Heaven" West Virginia

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Premod70 posted this 12 January 2026

For the last couple of years I have been lubing with what I would call as a wash. After reading about a bullet having too much lube and hydraulicing from the residue of previous bullets fired in the barrel I started reducing the number of grooves I lubed until I got down to just one. With one groove lubed there was a lesser degree of bullet flyers so that was when I took some left over lube and mixed it up and thinned with mineral spirits. I kept pouring in the spirits until it was so thin I compared it to a wash. Now all I do is use an egg strainer to dip the bullets into the wash and lay the bullets on their side using an old target as the rest. Next day the bullets are dry and ready to load. So far no leading in my 1903-A3 two groove barrel when shooting a match and brush cleaning every twenty rounds or less. I have no formula for the mixture, just redneck eyeballing.

Dale Flinchum

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