Lead on the Sprue Plate

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Wilderness posted this 27 January 2025

Sooner or later sprue plates end up with lead around the underside of the hole, often because a sprue has been cut too soon and molten metal spread across the underside of the plate.

One method to remove this entails a 50:50 mix of hydrogen peroxide and white vinegar. It works, but sometimes takes a while. Then put a sniff of synthetic two-stroke oil on the clean surface to minimise recurrence.

Another annoyance from sloppy pouring is lead in the slot of the sprue plate hold down screw. I fix that one by pouring more molten lead on it, forming a larger blob which is then removed by tapping on the handle joint.

Which brings us to an alternative for cleaning the sprue plate. I did one this morning, removing it from the mould and dropping it in the lead pot while also adding some wax to flux the melt. The wax makes the steel easy to wipe down afterwards and prevents slag adhering to it. The result after wiping with steel wool is a nice clean plate with a lovely blue finish.

This is actually an extension of something else I have been doing for a while - bluing small parts and screws in the lead pot. Usually I do this while the melt is coming up to temperature, with some molten wax running around and burning on the surface at the start of the flux. I just put in the part, then pull it out when I like the color. Color goes from straw, through a beautiful blue, and eventually a darker black. I'm not too worried about softening things, since lead pot temperatures are about what is used to turn hardened brittle steel into springs - I've been down that path too.

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Premod70 posted this 27 January 2025

I use the blade from a box knife, one pass at the correct angle gets all the lead off any flat surface.

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MP1886 posted this 28 January 2025

You got getting lead of the sprue plate covered prett well.  I've used the two cycle oil, but one of my favorites I've used for decades is covering up the sprue plate with a No. 2  pencil. That's works pretty well too. 

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mm93 posted this 31 January 2025

 I clean lead off with a single edge razor blade, but if it continues to lead up I remove the sprue plate and polish the bottom side with 500 grit wet/dry paper to a mirror finish. I've found a very smooth finish helps avoid leading also.

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Wilderness posted this 31 January 2025

Thanks all for the shared experiences.

I've been wary of scraping with a blade. With my luck I'd mark the plate.

My long time method was to clean off and polish with fine grit but I quit that when I found out about peroxide and white vinegar.

I might or might not stay with the dip in the lead pot method, and I did another plate yesterday with entirely satisfactory results - removed sprue plate from mould, dropped into wax flux mess, recovered when resultant blob of lead had remelted, wiped crud off with steel wool and old towel, applied two stroke oil, reassembled so sprue plate almost moves under its own weight, complete flux, pour metal into cavities, dip edge of mould in melt until new blob of lead liquifies and falls off, wipe off residue with leather glove, dump bullets into sprue tin, cast a couple more for the sprue tin, then all good for the next 150 - culled back to 130 later. Sprue plate still clean.

These were #311008 for subsonic loads in .30-30 - 4.3 gns Red Dot with pistol primer.

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lotech posted this 01 February 2025

I've had good results with bronze wool. 

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vmwilson posted this 01 February 2025

Brass brush in my Dremel.

 

Mike

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axman posted this 01 February 2025

Lead pencil for a coating, Bronze wool for tough stuff.

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Justin.P posted this 01 February 2025

My casting volume is probably much lower than many if not most of you, so therefore my experience level is also lower.

But I have a small piece of brass flat stock sharpened like a chisel. I use it to flick the lead off the sprue plate or clean the mold faces while they are still hot. I also use a little film of two stroke oil to keep it clean. 

I can't say it's the best way, because it's the only thing I've ever tried.

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Qc Pistolero posted this 01 February 2025

I solved that annoying problem by applying some 2 stroke oil underneath the sprue plate and on top of the blocks every 50 pours or so.I use a Qtip and spread the oil very very thin;you must not see the oil.Just the wetness on the steel is enough.And am very careful to stay clear of the cavities.

Hey,I like the brass flat stock idea.Justin!

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westerner posted this 05 February 2025

I coat the sprue plate and top of the mold with soapstone. Nothing sticks to it. 

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linoww posted this 08 February 2025

I hate mold in cavities release but I have good luck coating the sprue top and bottom and top of mold(leave bullets when spraying top of course)

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TRKakaCatWhisperer posted this 09 February 2025

I coat the sprue plate and top of the mold with soapstone. Nothing sticks to it. 

 

 

EXCELLENT - available at low cost too!  I use other things but the concept is the same - using a material that stands the heat and doesn't deteriorate.

 

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MarkinEllensburg posted this 09 February 2025

My dad always advocated for using a torch to make any smears ball up and then wiping them away with a stiff cloth, denim or canvas. I generally just use a sharp wood chisel. I have also used a wedge of hardwood as a scraper, it works and surely will not damage mold blocks or sprue plates.

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OU812 posted this 09 February 2025

As long as the lead smear is not piled up on plate I do not worry about it. I think all my mould plates have silver colored smear...so what.

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