I have 10 lbs of hodgdon clays. There are some pistol loads on the lable but not much. I'm more interested in reduced loads for 30-06 and 30-30. 165 gr. and 120 grn.
Does anybody have experience with this or should I continue my search for some unique.
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I've only used Clays for handgun loads. It's pretty bulky, so in theory it might work for reduced rifle loads, but it is also pretty fast burning so you would have to be careful. A little will go a long way and small changes in charge weight could result in large changes in pressure.
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Ross
In .30-30 you can't go far wrong with the 120 gn bullet and about 4.5 or 5 gns of anything fast (shotgun or pistol powder).
I see from the burn rate charts that Clays lines up with Red Dot, which would suggest a load of say 4.5 gns with the 120 gn bullet and maybe 5 gns with 165. Expected velocity in .30-30 will be about 1050 fps. Accuracy at this speed is usually pretty good, but requires uniform powder position.
These light loads are ABSOLUTELY NOT for jacketed or plated bullets - these will stick in the barrel. I prefer soft cast bullets with conventional lubrication.
I use pistol primers with these light loads of fast powders.
If you doubt the reliability of ignition of small charges of fast powder, put some on the floor, put a primed case in your rifle, and "flash" the powder from a few inches away. Fast shotgun powders will light, rifle powders will just be scattered - this should give you some idea of what might happen to a small charge in a big case.
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It all depends on what Hodgdon calls Clays. I know they were buying AS30N from ADI down here but I have heard that they have switched to ADI (Canada) so could be almost anything around that burn rate. I have always used the following table when deciphering foreign data.
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