Will Never Understand

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Pigslayer posted this 16 September 2013

Was down in DC today . . . As I have been for 36 years and noticed helicopters hovering over the area near the Naval Yard. Made me kind of curious. Seems that a couple of shooters got in there in cut loose on innocent civilians killing quite a few. One of the shooters was shot, killed & identified. still looking for the other. I don't get it . . . I really don't.

Pat

If someone else had of done to me what I did to myself . . . I'd have killed him. Humility is an asset. Heh - heh.

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RDUPRAZ posted this 16 September 2013

I wore a tin star most every day for nearly 30 yrs and I don't think there is anyone who really understands the killing of innocent people.

RD

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pat i posted this 16 September 2013

Pat you're never going to understand because you're not a lunatic. Draw and quarter a couple of these a$$holes in front of the Lincoln Memorial and show it on NBC and a lot of this crap would stop.

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Ed Harris posted this 16 September 2013

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/police-search-for-active-shooter-on-grounds-of-washington-navy-yard-in-southeast-dc/2013/09/16/b1d72b9a-1ecb-11e3-b7d1-7153ad47b549story.html

Updated: Monday, September 16, 5:38

At least 13 people are dead and several others were wounded after a gunman opened fire at the Washington Navy Yard on Monday, police said, spreading fear and chaos across the region as authorities sought to contain the panic...

FBI identified the gunman as Aaron Alexis, 34, living in Fort Worth, who is among the 13 dead. Alexis was a military contractor, one official said. But even hours after the rampage began, it was still unclear whether the shooting was the act of a lone gunman, or if other shooters were involved. No motive is known.

Alexis was armed with an assault rifle and a handgun, two law enforcement officials said. One said he also had a shotgun. One official said all the weapons have not been accounted for.

Alexis grew up in Brooklyn with his mother, Sarah, and father, Anthony Alexis, according to his aunt Helen Weeks.

“We haven't seen him for years,” Weeks said of her nephew in a telephone interview. “I know he was in the military. He served abroad. I think he was doing some kind of computer work.”

Alexis spent nearly four years in the Navy as a full-time reservist from May 2007 until he was discharged in January 2011, according to a summary of his personnel records released by Navy officials at the Pentagon.

The officials said they were still researching whether Alexis had been employed as a defense contractor or a civilian employee of the Navy, and were uncertain if he was assigned to work at the Navy Yard.

He achieved his final rank of Aviation Electrician's Mate 3rd Class in December 2009. Officials said they did not immediately know the reasons for his discharge.

The carnage began around 8 a.m. when the U.S. Navy said that three shots were fired at Building 197, headquarters of the Naval Sea Systems Command. About 3,000 people work in the building. As the noise that some thought sounded like construction work continued, the realization set in that a gunman was firing on them.

73 de KE4SKY In Home Mix We Trust From the Home of Ed's Red in "Almost Heaven" West Virginia

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JeffinNZ posted this 16 September 2013

What is more baffling is why does it happen so much in the USA and not elsewhere? It's not a factor of percapita gun ownership because on a per head basis NZ out weighs the US. Is it the national pschy?

Cheers from New Zealand

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Ed Harris posted this 16 September 2013

There have been a number of scientific papers written on the subject. Like Fort Hood, this appears to be a disgruntled employee and the case is being treated as “workplace violence” and not terrorism. Discussion of the motives and shooter profile can quickly degenerate into a political discussion, so I'll leave it with this link:

http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/workplace-violence

73 de KE4SKY In Home Mix We Trust From the Home of Ed's Red in "Almost Heaven" West Virginia

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Michael K posted this 17 September 2013

Pat is spot on. Maybe add some cultural diversity into the mix and put a French twist on things.

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mckg posted this 17 September 2013

Yeah, blame the French and the problem will go away by itself... That's part of the problem, being blind when our own groups are concerned...

btw: that kind of “workplace event” happens in Canada and Europe too... I almost worked for a company in Vancouver, a few month before a disgruntled employee interrupted their Christmas party with a shotgun... You just don't get Canadian or European news; in other countries they use terrorism to vent their feelings.

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pat i posted this 17 September 2013

mckg wrote: Yeah, blame the French and the problem will go away by itself... That's part of the problem, being blind when our own groups are concerned... I didn't take what was written as placing blame on anyone but the guy that did the shooting. I took it as a reference to bringing back the guillotine which works for me. 

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Pigslayer posted this 17 September 2013

pat i. wrote: mckg wrote: Yeah, blame the French and the problem will go away by itself... That's part of the problem, being blind when our own groups are concerned... I didn't take what was written as placing blame on anyone but the guy that did the shooting. I took it as a reference to bringing back the guillotine which works for me. 

Guillotine or Gallows! This may sound archaic but . . . I believe it would make a difference .

If someone else had of done to me what I did to myself . . . I'd have killed him. Humility is an asset. Heh - heh.

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frnkeore posted this 17 September 2013

Pigslayer wrote: pat i. wrote: mckg wrote: Yeah, blame the French and the problem will go away by itself... That's part of the problem, being blind when our own groups are concerned... I didn't take what was written as placing blame on anyone but the guy that did the shooting. I took it as a reference to bringing back the guillotine which works for me. 

Guillotine or Gallows! This may sound archaic but . . . I believe it would make a difference .

I'm not so sure about this. Most of these guys either kill themselfs or die in a mannor that would make the Guillotine look humane.

Although broadcasting the the death might help.

Frank

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Michael K posted this 18 September 2013

Once again, Pat is spot on. I like him. “Pat 2016"

I was not blaming the French, but rather we should be taking a few pointers from them in how deal with the violent human predatory elements of society.

Although drawing and quartering would be a rather poignant reflection on just what effect these clowns actions have on the lives of their victims and families.

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MaryB posted this 18 September 2013

I see it as a combination of poor access to mental health, to many psychotropic drugs used instead of other means, on top of mass amounts of violence programming already disturbed minds.

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Hornet37 posted this 16 January 2016

JeffinNZ wrote: What is more baffling is why does it happen so much in the USA and not elsewhere? It's not a factor of percapita gun ownership because on a per head basis NZ out weighs the US. Is it the national pschy? It happens elsewhere too.  Just not with guns.  The Middle East has suicide bombers, car bombs, and remotely detonated devices.  Those stories do not generate the same media outrage that The very rare crazy in the US generates with a gun.   In Canada ( Ontario, Quebec, and Nova Scotia) there was a biker war with deaths as a result of car bombs, arson, and beatings.  These horrific crimes were buried in the media, and at times did not get reported.  But the one time the bikers used a gun it was national news for a week

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