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Michael K posted this 20 March 2013

This topic has been raised any number of times on the forum here, but I wonder if anyone really has actually seen the potential outcome of the forces at work, myself included. I found this in a bunch of odd and ends that a buddy of mine left at my front door a while back.

I have two pictures to post, the first I will post tonight, and the second one I will post under “Wow - Part II” in a few days after a number of CBA and forum members and guests that have read this can formulate and post their hypothesis or hunch as to the cause(s).

The .223 Rem round on the right is normal. The round on the left has some obvious issues with the case body just below the shoulder, but why? Hence the focus of this post.

Hope this will make for some interesting conversation. Oh, and before I forget, sorry about the bullets.

Have fun.

Michael

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onondaga posted this 20 March 2013

http://castbulletassoc.org/view_user.php?id=3427>Black and Blue:

I confess, I've done this after taking the time to get a sizing die perfectly adjusted with marking die, then making a dummy round to check chamber fit. The perfect way to scrunch a case like that is when you go to seat the next bullet in a charged case; you to put the case on top of the shell holder instead of into the shell holder and then seat the bullet.

It doesn't even feel like you are doing anything wrong when you do this.

I'm sure I have done this at least once with every bottle neck caliber I have I have ever loaded.

Gary

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tturner53 posted this 20 March 2013

The one on the left has been squished.

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R Dupraz posted this 20 March 2013

Whoever did this needs to go back to remedial reloading 101!

RD

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billwnr posted this 20 March 2013

crimp die portion set too low. Adjust it up to not crimp so hard.

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Duane Mellenbruch posted this 20 March 2013

Ooops, that wasn't a 222 Remington case after all.

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Michael K posted this 20 March 2013

Tim,

You are as bad as I am. I love your sense of humor. But what squished it and why ???

Michael

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tturner53 posted this 21 March 2013

Adjusting the seating/crimp combo die body down too far to adjust seating depth with the seater stem up too far.

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Michael K posted this 21 March 2013

Hi Gentlemen,

All very good observations and solutions. I am not meaning to drive everyone nuts, but think outside of the box, the die box that is.

Michael

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jhalcott posted this 21 March 2013

I've done SIMILAR with a .204 bullet and a .17 Rem. case. I still do not know how the .204 bullet got into the .17 box. MY oops pushed the neck down though. I hve seen this type of oops by not adjusting the die properly. And/or trying to crimp a bullet with no cannelure.

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tturner53 posted this 21 March 2013

Duane Mellenbruch wrote: Ooops, that wasn't a 222 Remington case after all.I think Duane is on it-chambered a .223 in a .222

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Michael K posted this 22 March 2013

Everything mentioned so far would create the condition we are seeing. The above thoughts are the same ones that entered my mind when I first picked up the round. Actually my verbage was leaning towards a more colorful dispargement of someone's reloading skills. Although after a few minutes it was obvious what had happened, I was amazed. So far Duane's theory is the closest. Despite the what men can do when given a tool and the ability to bend, squish, break, smash, etc., something with it, no manually operated tools per say were responsible for what we are seeing.

Michael.

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