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pat i posted this 12 April 2011

I read quite a few cast bullet forums as do a lot of you guys and have a question maybe someone can answer. Why is it that people always seem to take the most complicated and confusing answer to their question as the best one. A guy asks about his bullets not filling out and a simple “turn the heat up” gets ignored while something like “the molecular structure of the mould material has a negative effect on the alloy's ability to completely gravitate to the outer boundaries of the vessel. Wash the mould in an acid bath followed by immersion in a mixture of H2O and a stearite solution. Once the fore mentioned tasks have been fulfilled increase the temperature of the alloying agents and try again” (or in other words “turn the heat up") is advice for the ages.

The Long Winded Complicated Guy gets heaped with laurels while the guy with the simple, and usually right, answer gets ignored 

A guy has a lube problem my reply has always been “try using a little less lube". Another guy will tell the asker “buy 379 different lubes and test which one gives the best results. Of course after you've tested 379 different lubes you have to start mixing them in proportions that will be equal to the task at hand (which usually means shooting a rifle bullet at 1600 fps or a handgun bullet at 1000 but we'll just skip that little fact) and try again. If your 10,000 tests of 10,000 tests don't cut at least 1/8 of an inch off of your usual 3 inch group the last resort is to try using less lube".

Once again, Long Winded Guy is a hero while short direct guy gets treated like a schmuck that just farted in church.

This always leaves me pondering what enjoyment is there in complicating the living hell out of shooting cast bullets that I'm missing? Anyone fill me in here?  

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Ed Harris posted this 12 April 2011

Ask Joe.

73 de KE4SKY In Home Mix We Trust From the Home of Ed's Red in "Almost Heaven" West Virginia

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billwnr posted this 12 April 2011

The long winded ones make for better reading. The shorter ones make for better results.

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Steel 13 posted this 12 April 2011

Seems someone was on Cast Boolits recently. LOL Theres a lot of experts on there, just ask 'em.

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Fred_Dwyer posted this 12 April 2011

This always leaves me pondering what enjoyment is there in complicating the living hell out of shooting cast bullets that I'm missing? I think this comes from the old adage; “If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with BS."

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hunterspistol posted this 12 April 2011

      That's right, Pat, it's BS!

     Ex = has been

     Spert = a drip under pressure 

      Then, the confused guy thinking he may, accidently, have the right answer drops into the Chat Room.  He gets told, “Turn the heat up” by about 15 other guys.  Not seeing what goes on behind the scenes is a bit like reading between the lines.

    Ron

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RicinYakima posted this 12 April 2011

Well, I'm one of anal (or curious, take your pick) guys who wants to know WHY it is the right answer. I really like the answer to the first one, by the way. Ric

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CB posted this 12 April 2011

Ed Harris wrote: Ask Joe.

Unfortunately Ed I am buzy at the moment, you ask him and let me know what he says...

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pat i posted this 12 April 2011

RicinYakima wrote: Well, I'm one of anal (or curious, take your pick) guys who wants to know WHY it is the right answer. I really like the answer to the first one, by the way. Ric But Ric, being a long winded buffoon isn't the same as being a right minded buffoon and I've read enough nonsense on this great wasteland of internet buffoonery to know the difference.

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CB posted this 12 April 2011

Does that make you an buffoon expert Pat?

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Brodie posted this 12 April 2011

The long winded jackas who doesn't really understand all the BIG WORDS that he throws around  and misuses just sounds so darn good that the equally uneducated  idiot who asked the question jsut thinks that longwinded must really know his stuff.  because, longwinded just sounds so darn good.   The short answer; “turn the heat up, or use less lube". is the only thing the question asker really understands, and since the other STUFF  just SOUNDS SO DARN GOOD, he she it follows it and walla it works.  \

End of long winded overly complex explanation.

Brodie

Ed; I don't know who Joe is but by the time I find out I'll have forgotten the question and won't be able to ask him anyway.

B.E.Brickey

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RicinYakima posted this 12 April 2011

Old Coot, What question? Ric

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pat i posted this 12 April 2011

Jeff Bowles wrote: Does that make you an buffoon expert Pat?

To be a regular participant in the great world of internet forum conversation requires one to be a buffoon expert doesn't it???????????? How else are you supposed to sit idly by while someone tells you the story of how they shoot 1/4 inch groups out of their Eyetalian Carcano at 400 yards using 35 grs. of Bullseye and primers made from Greenie Stickem Caps without blowing a fuse.

 NOTE: For the uninformed or mentally challenged the above load data of 35 Grs. of Bullseye with a Greenie Stickem Cap primer was meant as sarcasm and not to be used in any firearm of both past or present manufacture. Disregarding this warning and doing so will leave you without a place to put your hat along with other serious issues too gruesome to mention, including but not limited to quite possibly a life. While Greenie Stickem Caps in and of themselves as a primer (once you can find the Stickems and figure out how to get them to feed through an Autoprime) pose no obvious danger to the reloader that I know of the above mentioned load of Bullseye will most certainly disassemble your firearm along with various portions of your body. BE WARNED, BE SAFE, BE SMART, BEA ARTHUR!!

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CB posted this 12 April 2011

Absolutely! Well said!

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Brodie posted this 12 April 2011

I think I used to have one of those, but I forgot it some where, maybe he has mine.

B.E.Brickey

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CB posted this 12 April 2011

Aw shucks and here I was gettin ready to run out to the garage and reload me some new rounds to test.

beekeeper

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runnin lead posted this 12 April 2011

Where can I buy Greenie Stickem Caps ?

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rwjshooter posted this 13 April 2011

My Gaad

I believe I am becoming buffffoonnned

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billwnr posted this 13 April 2011

I want to get my buffoon button as I have a bit of dazzlery in me.

I also understand the long reason for the short answer of “turn the heat up” as the first years worth of match bullets took 160 hours of effort.  It was a real short course the next year with higher heat and a mould reworked to mate together better.   Took 40 hours of effort the 2nd year. 

Bullets were a uniform better quality too.

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72coupe posted this 13 April 2011

pat i. wrote: BEA ARTHUR!!

Some one sent me an e-mail with Bea Arthurs Marine Corp service records from WW2.

I was surprised to find that she had been in the service. Sorry for the hijack.

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pat i posted this 13 April 2011

72coupe wrote: Some one sent me an e-mail with Bea Arthurs Marine Corp service records from WW2.

I was surprised to find that she had been in the service. Sorry for the hijack.

She must have been in the Marine Corp because I found her picture.

 

 

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