scope crosshairs

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ubetcha posted this 20 August 2010

I'm looking to purchase a high power scope for BR shooting but not sure on what to select for the reticle type.I'm either thinking on the 1/8” dot or the mil dot style.What are the advanage or disadvange of both and what does the majoirity prefer for their scopes?

 Thanks

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JetMech posted this 21 August 2010

I use a fine crosshair w/ the 1/8 MOA dot on USBR tagets, which we don't use in CBA. I see no advantage to a mil dot for known distance target work either. I think a fine or medium wire or even a duplex reticle would be the best choice.

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hunterspistol posted this 21 August 2010

    I'd agree, I use fine crosshair scopes for target and silhouettes.

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billwnr posted this 21 August 2010

I use the 1/8 inch dot for the cast BR targets. It's no problem

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ubetcha posted this 22 August 2010

Thanks guys for your input.I was going to get the 1/8 dot but wasn't sure how fine the wires were on the mil dot.Never looked through one.The one I was looking at is the Tasco target 10-40x50.That's about what my budget will allow.I did read awhile back that many of  the cheaper scope have very good glass even though they are a cheap

scope. I have a Tasco Pro-Class 4x30 hand gun scope on my T/C 14” 30-30 and love it.It's the only scope I found for a long time that has target turrents on it.Serves me very well for many years now

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CANADIAN BACON posted this 24 August 2010

Beware the Tasco high power variable scopes. I have older Tasco fixed power scopes in 4 and 24 power. They worked fine. Thinking I could get a new variable with the same quality I order a couple. Not the same. The new Tasco are not that good.  Their reticle is very course with the Cross Hairs being thicker than the Dot. Depending on how fussy you are these are not target quality scopes. No matter what the price. FWIT:)  

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cityboy posted this 24 August 2010

hunterspistol wrote:     I'd agree, I use fine crosshair scopes for target and silhouettes.

How is your vision? Mine is not too good thanks to the passaage of time, and fine crosshairs are too hard to see.

Jim

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JetMech posted this 25 August 2010

CANADIAN BACON wrote: Beware the Tasco high power variable scopes. I have older Tasco fixed power scopes in 4 and 24 power. They worked fine. Thinking I could get a new variable with the same quality I order a couple. Not the same. The new Tasco are not that good.  Their reticle is very course with the Cross Hairs being thicker than the Dot. Depending on how fussy you are these are not target quality scopes. No matter what the price. FWIT:)   For a long time, Tasco's were made in Japan. I have one in 1.75 X 5 I bought in 1979 for $105, if I remember correctly. It's been through hell and high water hunting from Florida to Alaska and has yet to fail me. The current version is $35, made in China and not worth a tinker's damn.

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canalupo posted this 25 August 2010

Dollar

Unrelated question,

What is a tinker's damn?

Is it the same as a beaver's dam? Ha! Ha!

Bob D

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CB posted this 25 August 2010

1/8 minute dot is the way to go. When it comes to glass on a rifle don't buy the cheapest thing you can find since it's what steers the gun. I don't know how many times I've seen guys shooting thousand dollar rifles with 39 dollar KMart scopes on top. They'd be far better off shooting a 400 dollar rifle and having a 400 dollar scope on top. You're going to upgrade anyway if you initially buy something cheap so save the money and get a decent scope from the start. The Weaver 36x is a pretty good scope and you can get them relatively cheap.For BR shooting stick with a fixed 36x with an adjustable objective lens that uses a lock ring unless you get a smoking deal on one without the lock. The Weaver 36 does it all although the early ones didn't have the lock.

Also don't look through the scope and say it sure looks bright so it must be good. What you're paying for is both ruggedness and repeatability of the adjustments along with clear optics when you buy glass. There's a lot more involved to a rifle scope than being a telescope.

When it comes to buying shooting supplies along with most other things in life I've said it a million times and will probably say it a million more, buy once cry once. And I'm speaking from experience here.

Look over in the Benchrest Central. com classified section or ask on here and you should be able to pick up a used Weaver. If you're ready to pull the plug there's two listed at BRC.com right now. one for 300 and one for 320. They're used so make an offer.

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RicinYakima posted this 25 August 2010

Tinker's Damn: An 18th century colloquialism, meaning worthless. I have read that itinerant tinkers (wandering repairmen of brass kitchenware, spoons, etc.) were noted for their cursing.

 

HTH, Ric

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hunterspistol posted this 25 August 2010

     Cityboy, my vision is fairly good, corrected to 20/20 with bifocals.  I use a pair of glass lensed shooting glasses that are prescription.  I can understand the fine crosshair being to thin to see, a standard reticle is in order then.  Right now, I'd be 54 so, my vision is still fair to middling.

Ron

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LWesthoff posted this 25 August 2010

A “tinker's dam” was a small dam of dough or mud used to keep the solder used to patch a hole from running, so it was something absolutely worthless, once the solder patch was set.

Even though it wasn't, technically, a swear word, my Mom still wouldn't let me say it.

Wes

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ubetcha posted this 27 August 2010

Looking the the FS match results ,I see alot of shooters use 36x and most are Weavers.Are the new Weavers good? Right now I have a Weaver V9-II ( as I can make out) 3x9 with adjustable parallax ( I don't know if I spelled that right either).I got this from a friend many eon's ago.I did have a Leopold 3x9 but I thought I would give the Weaver a try because it has thin wires.I was hopeing it would help with looking at the target.I have a I.H.M.S.A. pistol shillouette match on sunday and will shoot my rifle after tear down and the range is clear after the match.

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CB posted this 27 August 2010

I have 3 Weaver 36x scopes and think they're a good scope for the money so from experience I'll say the Weavers are good and from reading things on scopes I hear the Sightrons are good. Both are (again) relatively cheap as far as decent 36x BR scopes go so pick your poison. The thing the Weaver has going for it in my opinion is that there's a lot of used ones out there. Being used doesn't mean the scopes are no good but (in my opinion) that once again someone bought something he didn't really want because it was cheaper and then upgraded down the road.

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JetMech posted this 28 August 2010

canalupo wrote: Dollar

Unrelated question,

What is a tinker's damn?

Is it the same as a beaver's dam? Ha! Ha!

Bob D

My Grandmother, God rest her soul, was born and raised over a bar in Toledo. She was a fine, God fearing woman who never missed church on Sunday. I never heard her speak a foul word in her life, but something didn't suit her or meet her standards, it wasn't worth a tinker's dam(n).

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old turtle posted this 11 October 2010

I agree that fixed power scopes work best. Variable power scopes have improved greatly however. The Weaver might be a good way to go. I am no expert as all of my scopes except one are old external adjustment target scopes which I like but price today is out of the question any more. I think you may find some good scopes in the 300 to 400 dollar range. Ask around other shooters to see if someone has a scope which they do not use anymore. Some times you will find a gem.

Good luck

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