Cast Bullet Scope

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CB posted this 14 October 2009

Is there such a thing as a Cast bullet scope. If so what would you look for in such.

I have my ideas on an all-around scope that would handle shooting out to say 300 yd. I have 4 such scopes and would like to share what I was thinking when I procured them. I was looking for scopes I could afford of American manufacturer. The scopes had to be proven tough and have a parallax adjustment. That cuts things down quick as most scopes today are of Japanese origin or use Japanese Lens Institute certified optics. and lack parallax adjustment except in higher powers. Well I settled on Weaver K scopes. My intentions were to put the scopes on 22 & 6 caliber guns even though I have one on a Ruger .257 Roberts for now. The scopes 2 of 8x and 2 of 10x.

Not trying to make presumptions but I feel anyone owning either scope would not trade. The scopes are that good and lack only turret knobs from being the perfect small caliber scope. The optics are great not Leupold quality but who's are.

I have the 2 of 8x on my .222 and .257. I have the 2 of 10x on my .223 and 22-250. Now I have more scopes than I need that I could put on any of these guns but I wanted scopes of similar charachteristics so the plan. To me the only other scope in Weaver's league are my Lyman All American scopes but they are on guns now. One thing I can suggest clean the optics once with say rubbing alcohol and use a lens pen to keep the dust and grime off as needed.

You guys should have some fun with this Thread and I can learn something from you.

Stephen Perry

Angeles BR:fire

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LWesthoff posted this 15 October 2009

If you're talking about a scope for benchrest competition, all you have to do is look at the CBA match results to get an answer to your question. That data is once again available to anyone who takes the trouble to look it up. You don't even have to be a member. You'll find that 36 power scopes are by far the most popular for regular bench rest competition. Military Modified Scope Class is limited to 6 power, and I believe the new Light Hunting rifle category has a power limit, too. If you're just talking about hunting and plinking, why would cast bullet shooting require anything special? You mount whatever suits your fancy.

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CB posted this 15 October 2009

Thanks for nothing. I am a  BR shooter and have all you talk about and more. This Thread is for the occasional target shooter, plinker, and hunter. Nice try.

Stephen Perry

Angeles BR:fire

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LWesthoff posted this 15 October 2009

O.K. Maybe we'll all learn something. I'll ask the question again: Why would someone who shoots cast bullets for occasional target shooting, hunting or plinking want anything any different in the way of rifle scope from any other “occasional hunter, target shooter or plinker"? Most cast bullet shooters look and act pretty much like other people. Most of 'em even wear shoes.

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CB posted this 15 October 2009

West

Maybe it's my fault in not thinking of the BR element of Cast. Hats off to them. I should have been specific and geared this Thread towards the little guy that might have access to a nice low power scope for Cast. My example of Weaver is the best I have for Cast even though I have everything else except a Nightforce, March, or Schmidt Bender.

So lets go on.

Stephen Perry

Angeles BR:fire

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CB posted this 15 October 2009

Be nice guys!

I have seen all types of scope on all kinds of guns. I have 36x scopes all the way down to 4x scopes. Each scope is paired with a gun I use for specific purposes. I have Simmons, Tasco's, BSA's, Weavers, Unertls, Leupolds just to name a few.

It would be difficult at best to make recommendations for a scope based on a type of shooting outside the conventional 'match' grade scopes as that is a matter of personal preference.

Scopes do not need to be different for Cast opposed to jacketed. If it looks like a scope, chances are it is a scope.

You would be able to make a recommendation for a scope if you have input from the potential user of the scope. Such as what they are planning to do with it, amount of available money to spend, etc...

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CB posted this 15 October 2009

I sold all my jacketed bullet scopes a while ago when I got rid of my jacketed barrels and stocks. My favorite cast bullet scopes are a 1x4 Leupold, a 3x9 Leupold, and for varmint shooting a couple of 12x Burris. I did pick up a 4x14 Mueller that has parallax adjustment down to 10 yds for my 10/22 that seems pretty nice also. A couple of my lever guns have Weaver Ks but I like the Leupolds better. I use T36's for BR but that's not being discussed.

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JetMech posted this 15 October 2009

Plus the fact that you're not one of the “little guys", Pat.

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CB posted this 15 October 2009

Dollar Bill wrote: Plus the fact that you're not one of the “little guys", Pat. I hope we're talking about the company we keep and not waist size although waist size would be a lot closer to the truth.

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argie1891 posted this 15 October 2009

The first thing i did when i joined the CBA was to look at the equipment used in matches. I was looking for the perfect mould, rifle, scope, powder, and etc. What i learned was that there was no ryme or reason to equipment.( excluding the unlimited class) Seemed the proper mould was whatever that rifle shot best. What i learned was what i already know, try it and see if it works.joe gifford aka argie1891

if you think you have it figured out then you just dont understand

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Lillard posted this 15 October 2009

The gun that I enjoy shooting cast in the most does not even have a scope. A 1895 Marlin cowboy 45 70 with a Marbles tang peep sight.

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tturner53 posted this 15 October 2009

I have a few scopes that were jacketed scopes that have been changed to cast scopes, so far no problems. hth

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roadie posted this 16 October 2009

tturner53 wrote: I have a few scopes that were jacketed scopes that have been changed to cast scopes, so far no problems. hth You have absolutely no idea of the horror that is forthcoming. Those jacketed scopes are accustomed to much higher velocities. I did that once, never again. The cast bullets seemed to melt and vaporize, went back to a Cast scope and life was good again.

I think it's a ying yang thing.

roadie

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Suo Gan posted this 16 October 2009

Tasco World Class scopes work well...although they are made in China.

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CB posted this 16 October 2009

Suo

My first hi-power scope was a Tasco World Class 36x. I still have the scope great scope. I shot my first 2 groups measuring in the 1's with it a .128 & .176 back to back with my 6x47 using Berger bullets back in 1993.

Stephen Perry

Angeles BR:fire

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tturner53 posted this 16 October 2009

Communist China? Yes, it's getting so it's hard to find anything that's not made there. As our standard of living keeps falling theirs keeps rising, it's a jobs thing. I try these days to find merchandise made “anywhere but China". I used to say 'buy American' but that's getting to be very difficult to stick to. The best Chinese scopes I've seen don't compare to Japanese(our ally) or American scopes(the best).

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Don Fischer posted this 20 October 2009

I did not realize that cast bullet's needed a different scope. I'm using an 1970 model 2 3/4X Redfield Widefield on my rifle, same scope I shot jacketed bullet's with. I have a 3-9X World Class in the closet but I shot jacketed bullet's with it also, is it ruined???

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mrbill2 posted this 20 October 2009

 "is it ruined???"

YES YES  Send all those jacketed bullet scopes to me. I'll see if I can't find someway to use them. Maybe mount them on some golf clubs or something.

 

mrbill2

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argie1891 posted this 20 October 2009

i was looking at a redfield 6 x target scope at a pawn shop it looks to be in good condition i could buy it for $60.00 it is a redfield bear cub dont have a clue what it is worth but it looks to be good quality. joe gifford aka argie1891

if you think you have it figured out then you just dont understand

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Fred Sinclair posted this 21 October 2009

Sounds reasonable. 50s/60s vintage as I recall.

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Don Fischer posted this 21 October 2009

There was a time when Redfield was one of the most respected scopes going. You'll find that that scope has pressure adjustments rather than clicks, only draw back. Great glass! I have two I bought new in the early 70's and they still work great.

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