Light Production class

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Bigstrap3 posted this 24 September 2009

 After the national shoot in Raton NM I was under the impression the the Board was going to vote on the new light production class. Does anybody know if this was put passed or what happened with it?

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CB posted this 25 September 2009

Yes it did pass. It is on a 2 year probationary period to make sure there will be enough interest.

I am waiting for the meeting minutes, there should be notes on the discussion.Then I figure they will have to get the rules for the class updated into the rules of competition.

The requirement usually is that the class must field 10% of the total number of participants at the next two national matches. So if there are 40 total competitors, then there has to be 4 shooters in light production.

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Tom Acheson posted this 25 September 2009

If my memory is correct, it will be called Hunter Rifle and there is no scope power limit (at one time it was going to be 9X max.) but the weight limit remained at the 9.5 pounds. Bedding and trigger job is permitted. Must be a “production” gun, no customized sporters, etc.even if they make weight.

 

 

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KenK posted this 25 September 2009

It was my understanding that a military barreled action in a sporter stock would be legal.

Maybe this is only for the postal match...

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Bigstrap3 posted this 27 September 2009

Thanks very much for the replys guys.

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tturner53 posted this 28 September 2009

Speaking of Light Production, I shot my Oct 15 target and sent it in. I decided to use my CZ again, a 30-06. It's hard to manage on the bags(excuse #1) as it has a full length stock (gorgeous wood and workmanship) and only weighs about a pound. The 20.5” barrel has open sights and is polished to a beautiful dark blue. It has a 1/12” twist which I like and a single set trigger. You push the trigger forward and it sets to about a pound and a half and takes some getting used to(excuse #2). OK OK, I'm making up the excuses, but if I send in a picture could I get a couple bonus points for having the best looking rifle? Back when I ordered it I almost got the 9.3X62(I think that's the right name) and am wishing sometimes I did, just for the cool factor. Anyway, as you can tell I love my rifle. It just seems to choke on PostalMatch day .Many years ago I had a 30-06 that was a Penny's!! I forget the brand, maybe a baseball players name. It had a FN receiver, a Sako trigger, a Marlin barrel(Microgroove!) and a either Bishop or Fajen stock, gorgeous walnut. That thing was light, a very slim whippy barrel, but the first three shots would go where you pointed it. Sold it to finance an Alaskan school trip for my youngest daughter years ago. Oh yeah, postal match, if any of you guys are dragging your feet on this one don't pass it up, it's a very fun match where you can shoot your “darling” rifle and do ok. I set the bar pretty low so you won't have to worry about being embarassed.  There's still the Lever Match and the Hunter match with a deer target. Maybe I'll borrow my son's Remington.

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CB posted this 02 October 2009

Yes the Light Production class (now officially Hunting Rifle Class) is now a CBA class for a probationary period of two years as Jeff said.

The only change in the rule from the postal match rules we have been using for four years is the name change and eliminating the restriction on scope power.

Both of these changes conform to the preferences of heavy majorities in a poll I sent to those who have been active in postal match #21.

Rifles using an original issue military action and barrel and meeting the weight limit are allowed.

The rational for this class was to allow members to shoot competitively in CBA matches with a hunting rifle they already own.

The big difference between Hunting Rifle and the existing Production classes, besides the weight limits, which isn't trivial,is that in Production Class anything not disallowed is allowed. In the Hunting Rifle class anything not specifically allowed is disallowed. I believe this will result in no specialized rifles being competitive.

John Alexander

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CB posted this 02 October 2009

Should have included the rules for Hunting Rifle Class.

Hunting Rifle Class: A factory produced rifle manufactured in a quantity of at least 1,000 units over any 12 month period. Rifles produced by a manufacturer's custom shop are prohibited. Rifles using an original issue military action and barrel and meeting the Hunting Rifle Class weight limit are allowed.

Factory sights may be removed, but all other parts, including detachable magazines, must be present and functional when the rifle is weighed or fired. Maximum weight is 9.5 lbs. (4.3 Kg.). Modifications judged to have been made specifically to allow the rifle to meet the weight limit are prohibited. The barrel may be shortened only from the muzzle to facilitate re-crowning, but the barrel's exterior contour may not be altered. The barrel must be chambered for its original cartridge, and the chamber, including the neck, must conform to SAAMI specifications. Factory action, barrel, stock, and trigger appropriate to the model, must be used. The trigger may be adjusted and the barrelled action rebedded. Buttstocks may be shortened up to one inch to fit shooter but the factory stock contour may not be altered. Factory parts may be exchanged, however, a reconfigured rifle must duplicate a factory produced model. There is no limit on scope power. Alterations not specifically allowed above are prohibited

John

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mrbill2 posted this 02 October 2009

John 9.5 lbs. max. Is that with or without the scope? Mr. Bill2

mrbill2

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CB posted this 04 October 2009

The weight limit applies to the rifle as fired. A person could use a set of match type metallic sights and use a heavier rifle. Otherwise the weight limit is for rifle and scope.

John

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Wally Enga posted this 04 October 2009

John A wrote: The weight limit applies to the rifle as fired. A person could use a set of match type metallic sights and use a heavier rifle. Otherwise the weight limit is for rifle and scope.

John Now that I would like to watch someone try.  :)

The CBA target has a bullseye (x-ring) that is a pale red pencil dot and a 10 ring that is 0.72".  And if you can even see any of this target at 200 yards over iron sights, you have better laser vision then Superman.

Wally

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tturner53 posted this 05 October 2009

That is exactly something I have wondered about myself, why the heck pale red? I know it's the same for everybody, but black would be a lot easier to see, especially since there are so many shooters with tired old eyes.  My guess is this has been asked before.  tt

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RicinYakima posted this 05 October 2009

If we wanted it easy, we'd shoot jacketed bullets at it! Ric

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KenK posted this 05 October 2009

RicinYakima wrote: If we wanted it easy, we'd shoot jacketed bullets at it! Ric

Hah! 

It is hard to see. 

I shot my first CBA postal match this weekend and sure would have liked to modify the target with my magic marker.

Can't blame the target for my sorry shooting though.  I've got a whole list of other excuses. : )

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CB posted this 05 October 2009

The reason for the red targets is so you can see the bullet holes even in the colored parts of the targets. As Wally mentions nobody is crazy enough to shoot metallic sights when unlimited scope magnification is allowed. Black targets are indeed better for metallic sights.

Seeing the target is seldom a problem with a decent quality scope. Seeing bullet holes in the black can be pretty tough especially under some light conditions at 200 yards for people crazy enough to shoot the 22 bore. Seeing the holes in red is a whole lot easier than in black. The difference is pretty dramatic.

John

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tturner53 posted this 06 October 2009

It's all relative Ken. I think anyone shooting consistently under 3” with home made bullets has accomplished something. Us hackers and beginners are shooting in the company of some very serious riflemen and can't expect to be competitive with them, yet. I don't even know how many guys I've helped at the range to sight in their hunting rifles, most of them can hardly keep it on the paper at 100 yds.! Many of them are lucky if they get the right ammo for their gun. In the end the rifle was made for fighting. If you can hit a man at 500 yds. (which I know you can) then you are a Rifleman. By the way, did you have fun shooting #21? Also, there are postal matches with black targets, depends on the match.

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CB posted this 06 October 2009

Red targets are generally used for 300 yd/m and longer distance Shoots. The reason as John said is to make it easier at longer distances to judge the shots on the target for the shooter. With a a good scope the red shows as well as black.

Stephen Perry

Angeles BR:fire

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billwnr posted this 06 October 2009

I will install a 36x scope on my 788 .308 and give the new class a try. It's sorta retro as this is the way Production used to be before the heavy barrel 700 Remingtons took it over.

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nimrod posted this 16 October 2009

Just wondering what the course of fire will be for this class, will it be like production with both 100 and 200 yard events?

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billwnr posted this 16 October 2009

should be 100 and 200 with the same targets and course of fire as the rest of the BR CBA events.

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