Rebarreling Your Cast Gun

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CB posted this 15 August 2009

Some of you have come to the point that a new barrel is the way you want to go.. Several reasons to rebarrel. One reason is you to change calibers on one of your actions. For small bolt face actions you could rebarrel say a .222 to a .223 or to a .20 cal. For larger bolt face actions barrels for a .308 could become a .243 or a 22-250.

The point is the bolt face size and action port length determine what caliber a new barrel could become.

I feel the 7x57 would be a good choice to rebarrel with for a guy who picked up a 30-06 with a tired barrel. Another good Cast barrel for the same gun would be a new 30-06 barrel.  

So any of you rebarreled your bolt guns to shoot cast. Which barrels did you select. What calibers. And results good or bad.

Stephen Perry

Angeles BR:fire

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RicinYakima posted this 15 August 2009

Well, all the full size bolt guns I own are on Springfield actions, except for one Newton. Sizes? 22/250, 276 Rigby, 7.62X39, 358 Norma. Favorite? The 7.62X39. One of the nicest cast bullet plinkers I have.

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mrbill2 posted this 15 August 2009

It all depends how big the rock is and how far I want to throw it.  :D

mrbill2

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NoDakJak posted this 16 August 2009

About thirty years ago I had Dean Miller barrel a Sako 579 with a Douglas Supreme, standard sporter blank. It was 257 diameter with a one in ten twist and is chambered to 250 Savage. It is my most accurate cast bullet rifle but is closely followed by a Ruger #3 chambered to 30-40 Krag in a factory barrel. Neil

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CB posted this 16 August 2009

No Dak Jak

I feel re-barreling can give a shooter a whole new World for the average flame thrower and a bushel of experience for the shooter in barrel dynamics. I say this because I have 25+ BR barrels that I change for 4 actions. Barrel changing can be a chore best left for your smith on factory type barreled actions, all my barrels are fitted to a specific BR action and change easily.

Like I said earier if you have a  action that accepts say .473 case heads you can rebarrel for any case using .473 heads. Actions that use .473 heads especially Mauser and Winchester claws will accept larger or smaller heads such as PPC. Actions designed for .223 size heads will accept all the.17, 20, and .222 cartridges based on the .222 Rem case.. Re-barreling allows a multitude of case selections provided you have a reamer for each case choice, most smiths have a variety of reamers and will help you select a reamer for your chosen case, say going ftom a 30-06 barrel to a .280 Remington barrel. Changing barrels is not cheap and the amount of needed value for any new barrel should be considered, also their might be a need for stock work with a new barrel.

I am not a smith and chambering barrels is not a Metal Shop 101 project. Find a smith feed him money and cookies and keep him in your phone book. Having your own smith pays multi dividends later, and if he shoots with you all the better.

I am talking Cast only here as much as possible what I do in my other BR game is my business and will not be displayed here from on. Like I said I made and shot Cast 15 years before I took up my NBRSA shooting.

Stephen Perry

Angeles BR:fire

 

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CB posted this 16 August 2009

I didn't rebarrel my rifles to shoot cast bullets I built them to shoot cast bullets.

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CB posted this 16 August 2009

Pat

That's a small response maybe on purpose. Why not share what all them barrels are for not for my sake because I too have similar in jacketed and more. But enlighten some of these guys of the use or your need for more than one gun/one barrel. Inquiring eyes might want to know.

Stephen Perry

Angeles BR:fire

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CB posted this 16 August 2009

Different brands. Different twists. Different calibers. Different ideas to try out.

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CB posted this 16 August 2009

OK Pat

How bout a breakdown on calibers and barrel brands for those Remington, Savage, Stolle action BR guns you are showing. Stephen Perry

Angeles BR:fire

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CB posted this 16 August 2009

Here is a brief synapse..

30 cal fast twist - long bullet - lower velocity slow twist - short bullet - faster velocity

My 308 production gun is a 10-1 twist, I shoot a 220 gr bullet that is appeox 1.200 long at 1800 fps

My heavy gun is a 12-1 twist and I shoot a 200 gr bullet that is approx 1.050 long at 2000 fps

I have found there is a direct correlation to twist rate vs. bullet length/ velocity with cast bullets.

I have a friend that has a 18-1 30 cal barrel that he shoots a .650 bullet at 2800fps with extreme accuracy.. No leading either using 28bhn lead and Voodoo Lube... I watched this gun shoot a 200 yard 5 shot group that measured .365 in a match 2 years ago.

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CB posted this 16 August 2009

Thanks Jim

That is the kind of response I was looking for. Like I always say I write for the little guy and in Cast I am one of them. I also say I laugh write when I read the Posts and I laugh when I write them kinda like the Terrence Hill  movie Man of the East that I am catching parts of as I write this. Thanks again Jim that was some good info on Cast.

By the way my shooting bud gave me a $40 price each on the new 03A3 barrels. I will pick them up in September.

Stephen Perry

Angeles BR:fire

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CB posted this 16 August 2009

That's Jeff that replied to you.

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CB posted this 16 August 2009

Jeff it is then he answered my Thread the way I hoped someone would you tried Pat but you clammed up when you had the chance to help the guys out.

Stephen Perry

Angeles BR:fire

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CB posted this 16 August 2009

Are you really that irritating in real life or do you just play the part on the internet. I could be wrong but I have the strong suspicion that your questions are more so you can give yourself a soapbox to tell everyone all the neat stuff you have and pontificate about all your knowledge and experience than to find an answer to a questions. Ever think that if the little guys you're championing for out there had any interest in rebarreling a rifle they might just come right out and ask all by themselves?

Time for a question from me. What are you laughing at while you're reading and writing posts?

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CB posted this 16 August 2009

Laughing at you Pat. You are a hard nut to crack. Ask you for a simple explaining response you give a picture. Your picture is no big deal to me as I could do the same. What I asked you to share is what make, caliber and twists those barrels are and for what intended purposes. Not to impress me as your equipment is routine in the shooting World but some of the other guys might like to know what you are showing especially calibers. Who's asking who what chambering a barrel is all about there are plenty of Threads on other Forums that explain such.That's what you wanted to hear anyway wasn't it.

Pat are you asking me to play stupid on this Forum. Unlike you I am willing to share here and not clam up and hide behind a picture. Think about it Pat. When did you say you were going on that 6 month vacation.

Stephen Perry

Angeles BR:fire

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roadie posted this 16 August 2009

Mr. Perry. Your continual tossing of barbs at pat i becomes tiring to look at very quickly. It seems apparent to me that you have a problem with the fact that pat i is a moderator rather then a problem with pat i himself.

If that is indeed the case, get over it. You have contributed very little apart from consternation.

roadie

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CB posted this 16 August 2009

Roadie Dude

Ask Mr Pat to please moderate somebody else. That would be fine with me and I will enjoy being moderatred by the other moderators.

Stephen Perry

Angeles BR:fire

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CB posted this 16 August 2009

While I'd like to honor you're request for a different moderator it was my turn in the barrel and I drew you. Just be happy you got the nice one, the rest are real bears.

How about we play a new game this week. Instead of you worrying yourself to death about the “little guys” learning something I talk to the BOD about giving you your very own topic area where you can hold classes right at the very top of the main page.

Hell why stop there. We'll change the main page to:

The Cast Bullet Association, Inc. Forum featuring Stephen Perry

That looks good. Just say the word and I'll call an extra special super urgent website meeting to discuss the issue.

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CB posted this 16 August 2009

OK Pat:dude: I accept can I choose the moderators.

Now can we get back to the original Thread.

That being 'Rebarreling your Cast Gun'.

Stephen Perry

Angeles BR:fire

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Vassal posted this 16 August 2009

by the way....I'm a little guy (new to shooting) and I feel like he is laughing at me.

Not that it matters. I will accept giving others a chuckle or two while I learn.

especially from some of the great info I read from  JEFF, PAT, Mighty ED, et cetera.

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tturner53 posted this 19 August 2009

Vassal, don't pay any attention to what pery says. None of us are “little guys” and he's not the judge of anything, just a lonely guy who likes to hear himself talk. He doesn't know jack about cast bullets and makes up the stuff he talks about. You will notice that the real experts here are much less talkative and a lot more respectful of other posters. pery missed the class on grace, manners, and acceptable public behavior of gentlemen. I'm here to learn too, not that different than you. That's the cool thing about this hobby, always something new to play with and figure out.

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