I have a colony of 7 barn cats, which is now down to 6 because a coyote got one Friday. I could not get the rifle loaded in time to do this yote in.
So I will look at keep a lever gun behind my door when I am home, here are my choices:
1)Marlin 1895 in 45-70 350 gr RD bullet 2)Marlin 336 in 35 Remington 204 gr Lyman bullet 3)Marlin 336 in 30-30 Win. 200 gr lee bullet
The distance was about 60 yards
I will do a poll to see which one you guys think I should keep at the ready.
Thanks,
Jerry
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I wouldn't count on giving a yodel a second chance, something fast like the 30-30 with a 180gr at 2,000fps. They've bred now, so its probably a female looking for a fast easy pickins.
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When I have baited yote out, they come and around mating season, I can use my call and they come a running.
I also have the wounded rabbit call, but that seems to work best during the cold and snowy times.
Since last summer, I have taken 9 of them “bad dogs."
Jerry
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I would definately go with the 30-30. Very common caliber, plenty big enough for coyotes, and lower recoil than the others. -Don
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I would definately go with the 30-30. Very common caliber, plenty big enough for coyotes, and lower recoil than the others.
Good arguement for the .30-30, however, if you shoot the .45-70 well the range is short and the results more effective with any marginal hits. Bigger is better.
73 de KE4SKY In Home Mix We Trust From the Home of Ed's Red in "Almost Heaven" West Virginia
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Ed,
One of my sons, says that gross over kill is the most effective weapon, or was Colin Powell. :)
Jerry
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Actually it's from the SIOP 62 nuclear war plan
73 de KE4SKY In Home Mix We Trust From the Home of Ed's Red in "Almost Heaven" West Virginia
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Ed,
That was informative. With the Powell Doctrine, I have to answer these questions:
By the time I answer all of these questions, the coyote will be dispatched. :D
Jerry
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Hey Jerry;
We have only killed two coyote here and both were shot with handguns. My 336 in 35 Rem has brought down close to a hundred deer using 357 cal bullets pushed with either 2400 or 4227. I'm a little biased toward using the 35 rem. 4227 is easy on the ears and the short pistol bullets chamber fast for second shots. For pest type animals I always use hollow points and aim at center of mass. While I haven't used cast bullets for hunting from my micro-groove yet, we are doing some semi-extensive testing and hope to have a usable combination by next season. Here in Florida most shots are taken in the brush so my rifle has never had a scope on it. At sixty or so yds I would think you could easily whack your varmit with the 336. Good luck.
Roy
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Roy,
My 336 in 30-30 isn't scoped, but my 35 Remington is. I am planning on using a 357 bullet in the 214gr SWC CB category, or the 204 gr RN CB in the 35 Remington, my 30-30 is load with 170 gr FN CB at the moment.
So I am looking to bait this 'yote out later this week, some old hamburger with a wounded rabbit call should get the pest out in the open.
Thanks,
Jerry
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Hi Jerry;
It has been only recently that coyote have made a comeback here in Florida so I know little about them. The two we got here had a den and the female had already moved the pups when I stumbled upon it. I expect that there will be a reappearance in the future. The animals we killed went around thirty pounds and were about the same body size of our bobcats but with longer legs. Everything here is smaller than most other places. How big are your critters? One of the dogs I killed with a 44 target load in the chest and my buddy dropped one with a full house 357. You are absoulutly right about them liking cat, especially our yellow ones. We have lost five cats to predation. We have ended up getting a large mongrel because I'm old and lazy and don't like to get up in the middle of the night. I hope you get lucky before the coyotes get full. Keep us posted.
Roy
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Roy,
The last male I shoot was 42 pounds. Some get to about 50 pounds, but I haven't seen them. I know the deer in Florida are small, especially the ones in the keys.
I like the one shoot one kill method, so I use a larger more powerful rifle some times, where a hit anywhere can be fatal.
But I am still waiting for when I have my 300 Ultra Mag out, that rifle will turn them inside out.
Take care,
Jerry
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When I was a kid I used to drag a 700 Varmint in .243 around the home farm. One day, from the edge of the back yard I saw a fox about 250 yds. out. It saw me about the same time and took off giving me a broadside shot. The rifle came up and I managed to roll the fox at a dead run. When my son was 11 or 12, he found a picture of me with my 700 and the fox in an old photo album and asked about it. We were sitting on the back porch after supper overlooking the bottom ground where I'd shot the fox. I showed him the spot, which he knew from the picture. He asked about lead, which I just didn't remember, probably about 5 feet. He had been shooting for a few years and was doing well with his .257 Roberts so I posed the question to him - Hey, you see a fox chasing 2 of your Mom's cats across the bottom, where would you hold? He said he'd hold for the fastest cat. I about fell off the porch swing laughing. We didn't realize that Mom was in the kitchen right by the window behind us. She brought us out a couple bowls of ice cream, which was pretty unusual, and dumped them in our laps. We both got the silent treatment (and no desert) for some time. Hold for the fastest cat has been the standard answer to questions of lead or fox problems since (but NEVER around his Mom!).
So, just shoot the yote with whatever is at hand and don't forget where to hold:)
Keep your plowshare and your sword. Know how and when to use them.
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I have been picking out different rifles every day to have on hand, mostly my Marlin lever guns.
Many years ago I had a 700BDL in 243, went deer hunting with it, great rifle. Wis I hadn't of traded it away.
Thanks,
Jerry
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Don't overlook the old handy farm gun called a 12 gauge. They make a special load of heavy shot just for coyotes. I would keep one handy next to a rifle as sometimes you can use a shotgun where a rifle carries too far. Little handier on the run too.
Mnshooter
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put out a critter or a fawn decoy then start calling like the decoy's are in pain, and see the difference the yotes will come right in, put out some rabbit or deer urine with this setup & good luck and good bye coyotes
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As of today, I have 22 coyote kills on my property. I like the ideal of a 12 guage, but I don't want to be that close to them and in some areas the shot pattern could be too destructive.
If I have a dead G'Hog, I live it own and do my wounded rabbit call, and Wiley Coyote comes out to investigate.
I have been using my Marlin 1895 in 45-70 lately with Thr 350 grain RD bullets, they work very well.
Jerry
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I forgot to mention, that my barn cats have grown to a colony of 11.
Jerry
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Good on ya!
73 de KE4SKY In Home Mix We Trust From the Home of Ed's Red in "Almost Heaven" West Virginia
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Yeah, I'm a day late or two, but I have to say that I've seen photos of a yote popped with a 45-70, and it was not a pretty sight. Blast them blasted yappers.
I took on a large bobcat with a my 375HH once. It settled things with authority. Now I own a naturally bobbed cat--she's safe from my weapons, but I better get a pink collar on her before deer season, dang that's next week. late again.
WP
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It is never too late for shootin yotes. I am up to 26 as of this week. I have used everything from a 17 HMR to my 300 RUM on them, as well as everything in between.
Jerry
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Well Jerry, I know the 4570 will kill'em. While deer hunting this fall a prime female yote was pushed to me as a watcher.She slowed down and crept up a draw about 90 yds. from me. An offhand shot slipped between the broom handled sapplings ended her deer gobbling days.....Unfortunately I hit her with a condum bullet going at 2330fps out of my Ruger #3. Her condition was no longer prime. My first coyote and I was happy. The next day we found a fresh killed spike that the yotes ran off a 15 ft. ledge and had half the hind quarter eaten by day break. If I can have a friend help me I'll post the pictures....afish4570
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I'm editing this post as the technique I advocate is not a fair-chase method. It's a method of threat elimination. If not employed correctly, non-targeted species could be injured. My apologies for dragging your thread off-topic, Jerry.
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Dollar, WHY does that sound so mean ?? We do it all the time with Bass, but catching a furry critter that way ????
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It sure does sound mean, But after you look at what the 'yotes did to your neighbors chickens and 3 calves, you get kinda mean. 2 years ago, the family up the road, who keep horses, had their foal dragged off and killed. I've got no use for them varmints. Hell, I won't even kill a oppossum that gets in my garbage. I trap 'em and haul 'em down to the state forest. But 'yotes, I got no use for.
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Resurecting this post because; 1) I have a question about varmint hunting. 2) I liked the picture of the cats(we sponsor all the welfare street cats in the neighborhood, does not make me popular with picky neighbors). Now the question; I don't hear much on the forum about varmint hunting or predaor hunting. Got an email from Australia where camels are varmints that got me thinking, how many of you cast bullet shooters are varmint/predator hunters, what/where do you hunt and what with(gun, load)? Out here it's mostly ground squirrels and jack rabbits for me, haven't got a good cast load yet but I'm working on it, .22 Hornet and .223 Rem., may go bigger if I get to hunt coyotes in Nevada with LeverBob. tt:taz:
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Was hunting them in Ill. on my small farm which just had to sell to a company for a new coal powered gen station. The yotes up there killed all my cats each year, one year 54 of them , all my chickens that I bought for eggs and most of my ducks. I called lots of them and kept them thinned out but still finally gave up on having any cats. I usually used 22-250 but not with cast slugs. I didn't get many close shots, lots of over 100yd shots and I couldn't take a chance on not planning them. They mostly weighted 30 to 33 lbs but could catch pheasents pretty regularly. I have a 218 Bee which might have been ok on them with cast bullets. I am just now developing loads for a Ruger RSI in 30-06. Love to varmint hunt, especially when you see them and they see you as a slug zipps their way!:dude:
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Damn! It sounds more like a seige, first your cats all killed, then the poultry, then the SOBs take your farm?! Hope that's the end of that. What are you gonna hunt now, out in the swamps?
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