1873 SAA Hand

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Aaron posted this 07 September 2024

My Cimarron (Uberti) 1873 SAA made in 1983 had the hand break. Usually it's the flat spring that breaks or falls out of the slot but this one was new to me. For some reason, Uberti drilled a hole in the hand, looped the spring, and set the loop into the hole in the hand. They removed most of the hand cross section and severely weakened the hand. I purchased this revolver in 1989 thereabouts and it managed to last this long before it broke.

I have several flat spring hands in my spares cabinet for the C&B revolvers. Those flat springs are probably the primary failure of the 1851-1873 design. I did not have any spare 1873 hands with flat springs and have noticed all the newer guns use a coil spring arrangement bored through the frame.

So the point of this post is to let you know that the flat spring hands for the 1873 Uberti guns are becoming hard to source. It may be in your best interest if you got yourself a spare before the existing supplies are gone. Uberti is no longer making them having gone to the new coil spring system.

If you do order one, be sure it is the assembly (hand + spring) and be mindful there are TWO pivot pin sizes. I sourced mine through Tailor's in Winchester VA.

Take a gander at this picture. Who in their right mind would drill a spring hole which removes most of the metal of the hand itself? Eesh!

 

 

With rifle in hand, I confidently go forth into the darkness.

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Boschloper posted this 08 September 2024

If that engineer was working for me I would fire him. 

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Tom Acheson posted this 08 September 2024

My S&W Model 57 .41 Mag is presently on its third hand. Don't shoot it much today, so this is probably its last one.

Tom

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Bud Hyett posted this 09 September 2024

Know any local gun repair person handy with a TIG welder?

Looksl ike an opportunity to weld back together, fill in the hole, reshape the end of the spring, and cut a slot like the original SAA. 

Farm boy from Illinois, living in the magical Pacific Northwest

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Aaron posted this 09 September 2024

Hey Bud, fortunately there are a few of these left in the supply chain so if you think that you may be needing one in the future, it might be a good idea to get one while you still can. Uberti and Pieta have gone to the new coil spring version to keep the hand forward, so the flat spring method is obsolete. Again, there are a few left in the supply chain so if you feel the need to get one, I would get one as soon as you can. There is no need to Tig weld at this point.

With rifle in hand, I confidently go forth into the darkness.

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Premod70 posted this 09 September 2024

Or better yet, throw the piece of junk away and buy a Ruger three screw

Forrest Gump is my smarter brother.

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Aaron posted this 09 September 2024

 Now Dale....If it was a real Colt would you say that? It's just the endemic problem with the 1873 SAA design. Those springs gave out. This one, well, bad design from Uberti back in the 80s which was corrected later to the spring slot. Now we have the coil spring in the frame and problem solved until you lose the spring or plunger or retaining screw!

 

With rifle in hand, I confidently go forth into the darkness.

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sluggo posted this 09 September 2024

It's pretty amazing that part lasted as long as it did.

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Aaron posted this 09 September 2024

It really is isn’t it? I have put perhaps 50 rounds a year through it since I bought it. Fortunately I do not slap fire it or cock it like an ape. That hand was just begging to break. My two spare hands arrived today. With a few more revolvers with flat spring hands, I am set for life now I think. Whew!

With rifle in hand, I confidently go forth into the darkness.

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Premod70 posted this 10 September 2024

Ruger started out with the hand problem corrected whereas the Eyetalian folks chose make the problem worst. And no, the Colt is a far cry from those cheap revolvers, they remind me of the cap guns we played with before our government chose to protect us chaps from such junk.

Forrest Gump is my smarter brother.

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Aaron posted this 10 September 2024

Unfortunately my last piece of junk was a Ruger NMBH I bought for about $800.00 which WOULD NOT FIRE A SINGLE SHOT. I tried 6 rounds that were all “kissed” by the firing pin, then another 6 rounds. The gun would not shoot. Brand new, out of the box, $800 and would not fire. All of my “eyetalian” guns fire. So much for Ruger test firing their guns eh? Rooger junk at twice the price of an Uberti.

With rifle in hand, I confidently go forth into the darkness.

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Aaron posted this 10 September 2024

BTW….it turned out that my NMBH was one of about 250 revolvers that was assembled with an out of spec hammer. Problems happen with all manufacturing production lines regardless of their country. My surprise was finding this on a “Made in America” product that had been “test fired” and/or “proof tested.” Clearly that was not the case. And speaking of Ruger, with the new Marlin rifle at $1800+ there will be a lot less of these gracing Christmas trees in steel mill or coal mining towns. Seems Ruger priced this rifle right out of the hands of blue collar America.

With rifle in hand, I confidently go forth into the darkness.

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Tom Acheson posted this 10 September 2024

Mabe related. A good friend used to always say Bugger when he was talking about Ruger. In the early days of handgun silhouette (IHMSA), the Revoler category was dominated by Ruger 44 Mags., before the ram topple sst rule was adoptd. There were a few S&W's and Colts. Then Dan Wesson came along with the series of Super Mags. Following that Freedom Arms, despite the highest cost, began to dominate the category. 

Makes you wonder how Elmer Keith would have done in the game with his favorite wheelgun?

The steel 200-meter rams weigh close to 60-pounds, so in the early days a regular old .357 didn't have the energy to take over the rams. A lot of .44 Mag. S&W Model 29's were "abused" in trying to master the rams! The abuse was often called "being shot loose"....including damaged or broken hands.

Tom

 

 

 

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Clod Hopper posted this 10 September 2024

It's funny you mentioned you had this happen.  My MNBH in .45c/.45acp had a frozen hand plunger.  Somehow it got rusted.  I discovered this when it would not turn the cylinder.  A punch would not move it.  I put the frame in my sonic cleaner and turned up the heat.  After three tries it came lose and I was able to restore function.  Trouble is I lost the long frame screw and had to get a new one from Numrich.

Dale M. Lock

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Premod70 posted this 11 September 2024

Hey Aaron, notice I said three screw when referring to Ruger's single actions. No way do I sing praises of their lawyered up version or for that matter any of these abominations engineered by any of the modern day manufacturers.

Forrest Gump is my smarter brother.

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Aaron posted this 11 September 2024

One thing is for sure Dale, those days are gone. Of note, my little Single Six is still plodding along.

With rifle in hand, I confidently go forth into the darkness.

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