After spending 30 minutes waiting on the phone with AZ Game and Fish I got no answers.It seems info on the Quartzite / Blyth basin there was talk of steel usage for dove. I understand the the Peoples Republic would invoke steel shot but Arizona ?I've hunted only in AZ and NM in the last five years and I saw no indication about the early season while in Yuma this year, late season?
Charlie
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As far as I know there is no requirement for steel shot on doves in AZ. You might try AZGFD.gov ( you'll have to look it up ) and there you can download a pdf file on doves and bandtail pigeons. Brodie
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I can't answer your question.
I lived ,hunted and trapped South of Tucson for forty years.
The whole waterfowl and migratory bird regulations never made any sense to me for S AZ.
The same ponds I shot ducks with steel shot are the same ponds i shot doves with lead shot.
We had bag limits, yet 20 miles farther south there were none and i am sure the steel shot issue was never considered.
The majority of Mexicans i knew south of the border didn't know what a hunting license was let a lone a season. And when i visited we went hunting because they knew i loved to hunt, time of year didn't matter to them.
--------J
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j35nut; Steel shot for waterfowl is a Federal Law. It has little to do with the State the birds are hunted in . As you might know it came about because of the lead shot covering the bottoms of many large refuges, and the birds scooping it up when they fed. Because the birds have crops or gizzards which grind their food with pebbles the ingested lead was digested, entered their systems and became poisonous over time. Places like the PRC require steel for everything because an extinct condor might eat the critter you shot and could not retrieve and get lead poisoning. Since the State of insanity (Calif.) says that any place a Condor might have flown any time in unrecorded history is their present day range they have banned lead projectiles statewide.
As you can tell from the above the big problem is too high a concentration of hunters, compounded by politicians who get their money from special interest groups. Bark Polishers, bunny huggers and such riff raff. Doves are seed eaters and know the difference between a spent lead shot and plant seeds and don't need regulations __ Yet! Brodie
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Charlie join me on CRIT and shoot lead.
I'll be there dec 7-11, for the third trip this season.
Call Flora and spend the 75.00 and have freedom!
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Charlie,
Ill be with my youngest son, attempting to collect quail in a variety of hot spots Ive found, by way of High Power Air Rifle at long range. My dogs don't hunt, quail there are easy to find, hard to sneak up on with a SG. Too many foiled attempts-- I figured out that If I smack them with HPA rifle in 22, then they die, they are preserved and “Bobby” flops over dead and “Jimmy” looks at him and says “Geez, didn't know he felt bad", and then Jimmy may flop over, Wash, Rinse, Repeat. With the integral sound moderators on some of the rifles they are silent enough to shoot at 70 Plus yards and the only person who knows the shot went off is the shooter.
Ill still be hunting dove in the AM every day. Just when that 45 minute window ends, its either coyote or quail and quail taste and smell better!!
More input than desired Im sure but funny and true nonetheless. Just received a Hatsan at44 and will begin tweaks this weekend to make it suitable.
Watch out for a Silver/Grey Z71 Suburban and a Toyota Tacoma 4wd in silver as well. That will be us. If your at Best Western in Ehrenburg let me know. Love to have a meal with you.
See ya.
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My favorite spot is the intersection of US I-8 and and 95 east of Yuma. I saw lots of quail along the rr tracks. Around Ehrenburg was fine a few years back but checked out poorly this year.
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Phase 1 ”€œ Effective July 1, 2015, nonlead ammunition will be required when taking Nelson bighorn sheep and all wildlife on CDFW wildlife areas and ecological reserves.
Phase 2 ”€œ Effective July 1, 2016, nonlead shot will be required when taking upland game birds with a shotgun, except for dove, quail, snipe, and any game birds taken on licensed game bird clubs. In addition, nonlead shot will be required when using a shotgun to take resident small game mammals, furbearing mammals, nongame mammals, nongame birds, and any wildlife for depredation purposes.
Phase 3 ”€œ Effective July 1, 2019, nonlead ammunition will be required when taking any wildlife with a firearm anywhere in California.
This is California!
Charlie
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If I were you I'd start loading Bismuth , I have no shotguns in willing to shoot steel in . But then all I have are SxS or O/U with fixed chokes . If I had a Benelli SBE2 or something along those lines steel would be ok .
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