STRIKER

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joeb33050 posted this 25 November 2015

I bought a Savage Striker 22-250, cleaned the barrel and put on the Midway/Simmons Whitetail Classic 6.5-20 X scope. (I was going to buy a $2400 Nightforce scope, but bought the $100 Simmons, about 95% as good as the  Nightforce for target shooting to 200 yards.) Loaded 8 leftover 225646M sized gc .225” and 15 leftover 225646M unsized gc LLA with 8/SR456, leftover and discontinued.

50 yards, sighting in, the 8 bullets, 2 high right sighting in, then 6 in 1.1” right dot. Then the 15 bullets, left dot, 5 in 2.175"

Shot jacketed for a while, then the last 5, bottom left, 1 way out high right, then 4 close.

This pistol, with a trigger pull like dragging a bag of bricks over a concrete road, is shooting almost as well as the Savage 12 FV 223.

Now to fix that trigger. Where's my file? Dremel? joe b.

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joeb33050 posted this 25 November 2015

100 yard target

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John Alexander posted this 25 November 2015

Joe, Good start -- looks like another example of an “overcapacity ” case doing OK with cast bullets.

I had good luck reducing the trigger pull on two M-12s with two completely different pre accu-triggers by lightening the spring tension one way or another.  Don't know how many times Savage changed the trigger design starting with the 110 or what they used on the Striker. John

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Ken Campbell Iowa posted this 25 November 2015

cast bullets shoot 2 to 3 moa . they all do . live with it .

except for a plain jane win. hiwall in 32-40 i shot when i wuz young ... shot about 1 moa with mystery alloy from a rusty old mold ...

been trying to recapture my youth ever since ...

question for the cba guys here .... how come cast bullets shoot 2 to 4 moa so much ?? if they are bad why don't they shoot 1 foot or 6 feet ?? are they partially bad ??

let me know when you find out .

ken

oh joeb ... be careful grinding on trigger/sears etc ... they may be surface hardened ... go only 0.0002 or so ... i use a diamond wheel on a surface grinder .... and plan ahead ...

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joeb33050 posted this 28 November 2015

Loaded some NOE 227-80, 225415 and 225646M; unsized, GC, LLA, NOT crimped, with 8/SR4756. This morning, at 75 yards to try them out":

After many shots, much bore sighting and all my sighting in tricks, the 227-80 wouldn't sight in. That's because the few that hit the paper went through sideways. Must be the twist.

Then to 225415, sighted in, easy, then 1st group

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joeb33050 posted this 28 November 2015

2nd 225415 group

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joeb33050 posted this 28 November 2015

Then the 1 and only 225646M group shot. These may not look like impressive groups, but: A. The trigger is just horrible b. My last dance with these kind pistols had a Striker in 308 and lotsa other barrels, and a Competitor in 30BR. At the end, these would just barely average <2” at 100 yards, 5 groups 5 shots. This Striker and the two Lyman bullets are doing great compared to last time.

BUT, SR4756 is discontinued, I can't find it anywhere. I've got < 1/2 pound left. I need a powder that's available and that works. I loaded tome rifle 223's with Blue Dot, but BD loads vary a lot, like Unique.

What powder do you recommend for 22-250 cast?

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gpidaho posted this 28 November 2015

Joeb: Just want to say that I was surprised and pleased with how well my 22-250s shot using cast bullets. (it was my first try with 22s) Mine are the Savage 112 26” Bull barrel and a T/C Encore 15” handgun, both hampered a bit by their slow twist. As such, I use a lighter bullet and faster powder than you would likely choose for your Striker. That said, I'm using the Lee 55gr Bator over 5.5 to 7.5gr. of TiteGroup and am happy with the results. I use TiteGroup in a LOT of calibers and it burns very clean and has very low SD when chronographed. Gp

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delmarskid1 posted this 28 November 2015

Joe, Accurate Arms no. 5 is similar to Unique and meters like water. AA no.7 is closer to 2400.

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John Alexander posted this 29 November 2015

joeb33050 wrote: After many shots, much bore sighting and all my sighting in tricks, the 227-80 wouldn't sight in. That's because the few that hit the paper went through sideways. Must be the twist.Joe, If your 22-250 has the usual 14” twist it isn't even close to stabilizing the 227-80 which takes a 9” twist or faster. I actually haven't tried it in a 10” twist yet but the 0.90” long bullet in very slow loads at 200 yards tip a bit even in a 9” twist John

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joeb33050 posted this 03 December 2015

The base load is 8/SR4756, 225646M unsized, gas checked (Hornady) LLA

I wanted to try some SAGE aluminum gas checks, and 5 without gas checks.

1.There was an empty target on the backboard, base load, 1.25" 2 and 3 were with aluminum gas checks, 2.6” and 2.2". 4 and 5 back to the base load, 1.4” and 1.6". 6 was no gas checks, the holes are A through E, about 18". 7 back to the base load, 1.05" 8 and 9 aluminum gas checks, 2.45” and 4.1" 10 back to base load, .85" All 5 shot 100 yard groups.

The base load avg. for 5 groups was 1.23", better than my rifle loads.

Trigger is horrible, but every shot is a surprise. Squeeze when sights align, stop when I drift off, squeeze...

Ken, a 14” barreled pistol, bad trigger, $100 scope and an old poor shooter. What's that about 3-4"?

joe b., just delighted with the cast 22.

I'd put the Striker barrel on a rifle, but that's a 14” barreled rifle = jail.

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Ken Campbell Iowa posted this 04 December 2015

joeb ::: with all your handicaps ....shooting a few 1.3 moa groups sequentially ( no cheating ) .... gives us all some hope ...

you wouldn't think an old poor shooter yanking a gritty trigger on a poor-boy ...eeek ! pistol .... oh no !! a simmons sightinger !! ... would turn out to be our newest national hero .

only us here cast lead shooters appreciate seeing one---let alone ---2 or 3 ... targets showing under 2 moa ... nice to see one of our guys made it !!

could there be room for more ??

ken

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John Alexander posted this 05 December 2015

Just as I have been saying all along Joe -- no challenge to it to get those 22s to shoot well.

Nobody can accuse you of reporting only the good groups they are all right there.

John

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joeb33050 posted this 05 December 2015

I was surprised that the al gas check bullets shot markedly bigger groups than Hornady. Very surprised that the no gas check bullets shot all over the place.

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joeb33050 posted this 15 December 2015

12/14/15  8/SR4756, CCI SR Practice with the horrible Striker trigger

1-4 225646M, cugc lla, unsized 1.1, 2.35, 1.85, 1.8 avg 1.78

 5-7 225415 cugc, lla, unsized 2.2, 1.45, 1.8 avg 1.82

8-12 225646M aluminum gc, lla, unsized 1.75, 1.2, 2.4, 2.0, 2.e avg 1.93

Another try with aluminum gas checks, once again they don't shoot quite as well as copper. But close.

I think this pistol will; shoot close to 1” with the trigger fixed.

Now to find a load with Titegroup.

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