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joeb33050 posted this 23 October 2014

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onondaga posted this 23 October 2014

All these  fragmented posts in just a few minutes. Are you using the forum as a notepad? Pull yourself together Joe.

Gary

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onondaga posted this 23 October 2014

Be careful Joe, my personal experience putting technical books together has shown me that you can easily develop CDDHD ( click, drag and drop hyperactivity disorder ).

Gary

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Dirtybore posted this 30 October 2014

Joeb, why are you trying to take all the fun and knowledge out of TFS.  It's about cast bullets, not about one particular type of shooting sport.  

What exactly is it you wish to read about?  Oh and by the way, What is LRH?  See, you lost your reader (me) at that point.   By the way, there have been several “non-competition ......... bench shooting” articles in TFS.  I believe  the article about cast bullets ina 7.62X54R in the last TFS would more than likely qualify. The more you narrow the scope of the magzine, the fewer articles will be submitted.  You are correct about some topics are better covered in other publications.  Muzzleloader magazine and Black Powder Cartridge News are probably good examples.   What you have to understand is that there is a lot of overlap between the shooting sports, especially when cast bullets are being used. You mentioned pistols, well I'm re-reading Mr. Mustafa's article about the 1985 Mosin-Nagant pistol in TFS, Journal #179, Jan/Feb 2006.  So, I'm as happy as a clam at high tide since I have access to that article.  In my unbiased biased opinion, TFS would be greatly amiss if they omittid cast bullet pistol shooting from the publication.

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Tom Acheson posted this 30 October 2014

LRH =Long Range Handgun. 7-pounds max., 15” barrel max.

If the CBA decides to omit coverage of handguns and related articles, that would really be foolish. The CBA has the LRH and the UNP (Unrestricted Pistol) BR match categories. The UNP group has seen some nice growth at the matches in the last two years.

The vast MAJORITY of visitors to the CBA gun show table in each spring here in the Twin Cities ask about making cast pistol bullets.

Don't like reading about the few articles in the FS about handguns?.....tough banana's!

Tom

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Ken Campbell Iowa posted this 31 October 2014

i hope in my earlier posting i did not leave the impression i was promoting less handgun coverage ...

i think the cowboy in us here americans in regards to our sidearms will keep the interest up for some time yet.

if 98% of weekend handgun blasters are not potential cba members... that still leaves 20,000 serious and curious souls who would like to improve their performance.

and yes, they can buy bullets almost as cheap as casting them ... IF they have to buy lead ... but if they can scrounge up free lead ... they might like to have a mold ... or three ... and become proficient with same.

and as a rifle plinker ... i would still like to shoot bean cans at 200 yards instead of 50 yards ... so i keep thinking that in the very next FS, there will be that big breakthru ...

ken

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Dirtybore posted this 01 November 2014

Ken Campbell Iowa wrote: i hope in my earlier posting i did not leave the impression i was promoting less handgun coverage ...

ken No Ken, it wasn't you.  Joeb brought it up in his top (beginning ) post. It sounds like Joed would like to restrict TFS articles to a narrow scope of coverage in the erronious hopes that more people would like it.  Granted, because TFS covers such a wide range of topics, they do become rather sparse.  At least this allows each member to get a small dose of what interests them and thereby retaining their membership.   I love and look forward to TFS even though not every article tickles my interest.   

We need to continue to encourage authers to submitt their articles whether or not each one is of interest to us.  Those articles are about the casting and shooting project that person is working on.    Tom; thanks for cluing me in on LRH (long range hadngun), I guess my hair has gotten so gray I missed that sporting group.  Easy for me to do since I don't follow that sport and I'm busy sorting my flints and getting my 54 cal flintlock ready for an up-coming deer hunt.

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M. W. Curtess posted this 07 November 2014

I'll risk a pro casting comment. I began casting to save money. No possible way I could afford to shoot my rifles again when I returned to the USA in view of the inflated prices of ammo during the years I was away. Inexpensive Lee equipment paid for itself the first year.  Then I got into handguns, too, and had even more fun and satisfaction.  I'll go out on a limb here and mentioned that within a couple of years, my own bullets were better than any of the commercially cast ones I tested (and apologies to those CB friends who given me bulk-cast bullets).  I enjoyed bullet casting so much it quickly became my life's only obsession, and I will continue to cast my own bullets regardless how cheap commercial ones may get. (Those don't always fit acceptably, plus I always have to melt the lube off of them in solvent and apply my own - or just wait a few months until it falls off by itself, part of it, anyway.)  What is my time worth?  Well, the same as it is when I'm reading, watching TV, and now looking around on-line.)  I reckon my bullets cost me about the same as commercial ones do to be produced.  Why should someone else have all the fun and satisfaction- and a small profit, too?

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muley posted this 07 November 2014

well said , Mr. Curtess.

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M. W. Curtess posted this 07 November 2014

Thanks, but easy on the “Mr.", please. The “M” is initial for my given name -Mustafa

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Dirtybore posted this 07 November 2014

It looks like M. W. Curtess had much the same experience as I did.  Back in the 1970's when I started shooting muzzleloaders, the only round balls one could find for sale in stores were bags of somebody's seconds.  A good friend showed me how to cast round balls better than what was available and I went on to shoot 1 1/8” groups at 100 yd with a pair of half stock Hawken style rifles.

Once I got out of college and had a good paying job, I picked up a couple of single shot BPCR's and had to cast for them.  

During the 1990's, my family as a whole attended 3 and 4 mountain men rendezvous a year and with each one of us shoooting, I started buying round balls just to save myself from the casting furnace.  By then, Speer was producing very good bullets.  They were as good as mine but not neccessarily better.

"Sharon", that same Hawkin rifle I mentioned above shot 1 1/8” groups with both my cast .526” RB and Speer's .530” RB.  The only difference  was the thickness of the cloth patch used with each bullet.  

During this last century, the 2000's, I've been shooting small caliber military surplus equipment and have been casting bullets for it.  Believe me, each set of firearm class uses it's oun bullet casting technics and alloys.  This is were one can glean so much knowledge from the CBA members when difficulties arrise.  

As for pistols, I'm guilty of buying boxes of cast bullets from others but the falicy of this is after say 10 years, those bullets are no longer available.  That small business has gone under.  Now one has to find and re-test more bullets to fine the best one.   I haven't been shooting a lot of pistol veniews over the years so this hasn't affected me but I can sure see where casting one's oun pistol bullets might be beneficial.

By the way, Back in the 1990's I was having trouble with cast bullets in a rifle and several CBA members came to my assistance.  I became Pen Palls with 4  of them and one, Mr. Dunan passed away several years back.   Since then, I've met more friends who have helped me and we stay in communication with each other.

I look forward to recieving TFS and enjoy it very much.  Granted, not every article floats my boat but neither do I feel any were dross, to be skimmed off and discarded.

A case in point; I'm going to pick on J. Alexander.  He wrote about building an underground shooting range.  What a novel idea and drainage would be one of his biggest challenges.    I read the articles becasue I was interested in how he built the system since over my 34 years of work, I inspected the construction of many highway culvert crossings and drainage structures and basically, that is what he was building. What a lucky guy, his own private basement shooting range.  I'm envious.

The CBA has taken me from casting pure soft lead round balls for muzzlestuffers to heat treating allow bullets for cartridge breech loaders.   Back in the 1970's when I started, I sure didn't foresee where this was going to take me.  It's been challenging and I've met so many very nice and knowledgable cast bullet shooters.

The Cast Bullet Assoc. would have to change it's name if it didn't include ALL cast bullets.   Not every issue will have something for everybody but at least there will be something for everybody at one time or another.   The use of cast bullets overlaps so many different shooting venues and types, it's no wonder we get a smattering of articles.  It is this braod scope that we need in order to help each member grow and challenge themselves as they take on new shooting projects.

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