New Way To Raise Pressure

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Bud Hyett posted this 13 June 2023

Just when you think you've seen it all, something new happens.

Situation:

  • My Springfield 1903 had a high pressure load that froze the bolt during a match.
  • The load is 24.5 grains Reloder #7, W-W LR primer, Schauf 30-205-SP bullet, sized 310, used linotype alloy, LBT Blue lubricant.
  • The load had significantly more recoil and a huge cloud of brown-white smoke.
  • Used a wooden block and two people to get the bolt open. 
  • Primer disappeared and swollen head. 

Observation: During depriming one case pulled the decapping pin out of the die. The pin stuck in compressed walnut hulls stuck in the bottom of the case. This necessitated using a very thin Swiss file to get the walnut hull glob out of the die and recover the decapping pin. 

Problem?: I think this is where the problem started. This load is just over 50% case capacity, I use a light to check cases since a double charge would fill the case to the neck. Another case had a walnut hull glob, but not as deep. The decapping pin took the primer out but did not disturb the glob. When I loaded the case, there was enough glob to cause trouble, but not enough to raise the powder column to a level where it was noticeable. 

In the future, I'll check each case after cleaning to ascertain they are empty. I've simply dumped them out in the past. I'll also use a plastic rod to dipstick the powder column for uniform height after powdering. 

Your thoughts are appreciated. 

Farm boy from Illinois, living in the magical Pacific Northwest

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Duane Mellenbruch posted this 13 June 2023

The dip stick has always been a good idea for smaller charges.  And it does not take a lot of time to do it.  Perhaps the clumping could have resulted from wet cleaning the cases?  While I have never had that happen, it is something to watch for.  Good to point this out.  Glad no injury or damage.

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Ross Smith posted this 13 June 2023

I've had walnut globs also but noticed them during the reloading process. I don't fully understand why it increases pressure, but I'll take your word. I use compressed air to blow out all my cases after polishing now.I also shine a light thru the cases  to make sure the primer hole isn't clogged.

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ray h posted this 13 June 2023

Years ago Steve Trimm  wrote about this the old Varmint Hunter Mag. Rouge was added to the walnut hulls but built up inside the brass. I've long switched to chemical cleaning . One of those short , cheap bore scopes seems like a good idea for checking brass.

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Rich/WIS posted this 13 June 2023

The walnut hulls left in the case effectively reduce case capacity, there are some references in the NRA Cast Bullet handbook about cream of wheat used as a filler to position powder in the 30/40 Krag raising pressures.  A small flashlight like the small maglite or something similar works well to check cases before and after charging.Have found walnut hulls in both 06 and 30/40 cases after cleaning but tapping mouth down on my bench cleared it out, was always loose and not clumped.  Are you adding something to the hulls that could cause clumping. I have never had this issue with mineral spirits, probably because it evaporates.

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G.Chapman posted this 14 June 2023

+1 for what Ross said....  My anal retentive case prep routine is: walnut shell polish, size, trim, chamfer, expand case mouths. Then, I give the prepped cases a shake-bath in hot water and dish soap (gets rid of the case lube)... Rinse several times, and then blow through the flash hole with compressed air to expel water and any CRAP that might be in the case and/or flash hole. Then they get laid aside to dry prior to priming.  Before adopting this routine I too had "clumps" of polishing media adhered inside cases.  Not good!

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Aaron posted this 14 June 2023

I have often wondered if this is the cause of some "blow ups" at the range. I too have seen clumps of corn cob retained in cases after resizing. I believe the cause to be adding polishing goop AFTER the cases have been added to the tumbling media. I used to believe the cases helped stir the goop into the media. Anyone who has done this has seen the resultant pudding created by this process, and with certainty, some of that pudding will find its way into the cases to solidify.

I now add polishing goop to the media and tumble without cases added for about 30 minutes to distribute and mix the polish goop into the dry media BEFORE adding dirty cases to the media. I have not seen any media build-up in cases hence. There is always that corn cob bit stuck in the flash hole (if you have already deprimed the brass) which is to no end of annoyance. An ice pick removes it just fine.

With rifle in hand, I confidently go forth into the darkness.

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John Alexander posted this 14 June 2023

Good point Aaron.  I would bet that some of the famous Secondary Explosion (SEE) blow ups are no more mysterious than some barnyard debris in the wrong place. 

John

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