Which is the better cast bullet cartridge?
It seems to me the .308 has a more advantageous powder capacity but the 30/06 has that long lovely neck.
It looks like the .308 dominates the CBA production class but that may just be because of the availability of the Savage rifle in that chambering.
I'm looking at buying another Ruger No. 1 in one of the two.
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My 30-06 rifles are mostly older ones,but the throating seems a more forgiving for various designs than the typical 308 Win. In a Ruger #1. i would bet(not alot of money) it would be hard to tell the difference in accuracy between the calibers. For me the 3000 rnds of 30-06 brass i have seals the deal.
I am looking for a #1B 30-06 myself.I have a buddy who just offered me a new 1-14 twist 30 barrel i could stick on another #1 action.I want to build a dedicated plainbase 30-06 rifle.A stupid plan,but what the heck!
George
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I am looking for a #1B 30-06 myself.I have a buddy who just offered me a new 1-14 twist 30 barrel i could stick on another #1 action.I want to build a dedicated plainbase 30-06 rifle.A stupid plan,but what the heck!
George What I really, really, want is a single shot in 30-30. That is what I would do if I was going to rebarrel.
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Cant argue with the 30-30 SS idea.If i did another 30 from scratch i am would to do a 32 Mag.I had a Martini in 32-20 throated for rifle bullets a few years back witha 1-10 twist takeoff Ruger 308 varmint tube and boy was it fun.I think the 32 mag would hold enough powder to get what i want from a plainbse 170-190 bullet.if not I'll punch it to 32-20.
Geroge
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GeorgeWhat about the 32 Special.
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What about the 32 Special.
George
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #e6eaeb"A distinct advantage to the .32 Spl or .30-30 is the ability to load and shoot fixed ammunition. The .32 Miller is dominant in plain-base bullet competition but is a breech-seat proposition only. That is fine for compettion but not so fine if one ever wants to use a rifle otherwise.
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I was refering to breech seating when i was talking about the smaller .32 cases.I just fabricated a breech seater for my 30-06 for use with the 308403 Pope bullet.I used a 30-06 case with a sliding rod that allows me to put the bullet a bit into the neck. When the bolt closes the rod is pushed home by the boltface and seats the bullet.If it is a success i'll have my friend make me a nice adjustable depth one.I will be able to use my Pope re-de to load on the bench with one case.I must be board!
George
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I have a couple of each and like them both. I have shot the smallest CB groups with my BRNO M98 actioned sporter that has an FN made, Israeli surplus .308 barrel installed. The barrel was new and in the white when I installed it on a $50 gun-show purchased BRNO action and dropped it into a used Fajen stock. Using heat treated, 30-180-SP's tapered in an Eagan die, it shoots sub MOA for three shots when ever I do my bit. I have fired groups as small as .5 MOA and none larger than 1.2” at high speeds. I have never fired a “target” load with it. Every round fired has been over 2000 fps. A real deer slammer is the 311-407 at 2250. Mule deer hate it.
I have never had that kind of results with any 30-06.~AMMOe
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I was about to give up on my borrowed .308 but shot a fairly nice group with it this afternoon. It seems to not like 2400. Bluedot maybe has me on track.
George, how about an update on your breechseating experiments?
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The .32 Miller is dominant in plain-base bullet competition but is a breech-seat proposition only. That is fine for compettion but not so fine if one ever wants to use a rifle otherwise.
Assuming the bullet fit so that a simple push type seater worked; I believe the Miller Short could be reloaded in the field faster than a muzzle loader. One 200 grain .32 caliber bullet should be all a fellow would need on a deer anyways.
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