Rising costs!!!!

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Pigslayer posted this 16 February 2024

So . . . for various reasons (lost loved one & my health issues) I haven't visited my loading bench in a very long time . . . several years. After coming out of that very lengthy fog I found my thoughts being bent towards my favorite hobby . . . my firearms. I started thinking about primers and powder. I thought about what I may need and checked the usual places like Midway, Grafs, Natchez, Powder Valley and Buffalo Arms. Oh-oh! Where is my defibrillator??!! Powder is now around $60.00 per pound! Primers at $100.00 per brick! WTH?? So I said whoa! Let me check my inventory before I place any orders! So off I went to the shop. Whew! Upon checking I found that I had several bricks of primers in all flavors along with three pounds of each of my favorite pistol powders e.g. Bullseye, Unique & Titegroup. Plenty of my favorite rifle powder e.g. H4831, H3031, H4198, H4350 & H4895. I'm good! Now . . . to warm up my lead pots!!

If someone else had of done to me what I did to myself . . . I'd have killed him. Humility is an asset. Heh - heh.

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pat i. posted this 16 February 2024

Welcome to modern America. At least now you're able to find a few things, for a while you couldn't. Went to a gun show last year and some gangster had LR primers at 300 bucks per thousand. Hope he paid 200 and ends up eating them.

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pat i. posted this 16 February 2024

I mourn the old days when gun shows had primers for 10 bucks per thousand and powder 10 bucks per pound. Those days are long gone unfortunately.

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Aaron posted this 16 February 2024

Reloading component costs have risen disproportionately with other inflation related costs.

Yup. Powder at $68 a pound PLUS shipping PLUS hazmat fee! There is a game afoot.

With rifle in hand, I confidently go forth into the darkness.

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9.3X62AL posted this 16 February 2024

Not the first time that buccaneers have taken over the components market.  If we stop feeding the %$&@#$^s, they might get the hint that we won't be ripped off so egregiously.  

Flip the script on these brigands--it costs money to store stuff.  When products won't move the retailers will discount them to make them do so.  

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MarkinEllensburg posted this 16 February 2024

 

Flip the script on these brigands--it costs money to store stuff.  When products won't move the retailers will discount them to make them do so.  

Be very careful here. Retailers do not give a rip about keeping an industry or product line alive. If it doesn't move across their shelves they will just discontinue it. A local membership retailer in the PNW, BiMart has rather ignorant buyers and merchandisers. Gun counter employees are ignorant as well. Yesterday I heard a clerk lament when answering an inquiry about large rifle primers "when we do get them in people buy them a whole box at a time (meaning a thousand at a time). Why would you buy less than that at one time? When I only had one rifle and only 2 boxes of brass I bought primers by the hundred. That was decades ago. 

If history is any indication, today's prices will stabilize and then there will be another panic driving prices higher.

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John Carlson posted this 16 February 2024

Combination of economics and opportunity.  When the supply/demand curve gets warped through manipulation of the supply side the consumers get nipped.

John Carlson. CBA Director of Military Competition.

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Tom Acheson posted this 16 February 2024

Up here in the MN tundra, there is a farm supply franchise called Fleet Farm or Farm & Fleet. They have stores in MN & WI. 2-months ago I bought a pound of Tite Group. $38.00+tax. (1000) R-P 7 1/2 were $88.16. But.... (1000) CCI small rifle match were $112 + tax.

Tom

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John Alexander posted this 16 February 2024

It's bad enough. Let's not make ourselves feel worse than we have to.

The last three pounds of powder I paid less than $40 each. Primers at local Sportsman's Warehouse have been $57/1,000 for a while. Of course the bastards will gouge when they can, but the market will eventually begin to work.

John

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Pentz posted this 16 February 2024

After the last panic I sat down and calculated the number of bricks and sleeves of all sizes of primers in my preferred brands as well as the pounds of all types of powder needed for the next 10 years, based on my current uses at the time.  Of course I've slowed down so am in even better shape for the rest of my recreational and competitive shooting years.  Scored 1K of the 32-20 Starline from last month's run too.  And, my lead supply is cracking the garage slab floor.  If nothing else it all is money in the bank.  

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Bud Hyett posted this 17 February 2024

Reloaders have always gotten the remains of any run of powder and primers. The manufacturers run more than they need for commercial ammunition knowing reloaders will pick up the surplus. I've attempted to buy 5000 or 10,000 round lots of primers to standardize one factor of the loads.

Now I'm in good stead for this year for matches and hopefully for prairies dogs. 2025 may find me shooting a Marlin 1894 in Production because I have an excess of large Pistol primes. 

 

Farm boy from Illinois, living in the magical Pacific Northwest

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OU812 posted this 17 February 2024

Times are changing. My range no longer allows paper targets. Groups are now shown on monitor.

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Aaron posted this 20 February 2024

Yup. Times are changing. A very expansive subject for us Boomers who can count, perform algebra and other mathematics, can read and comprehend, can actually write in cursive, who learned US history and government, had to take driver's education in high school, used to bring our rifles and shotguns to school in the truck or car, played dodge ball, and did all those other wondrous and dangerous things in our youth. We respected our elders and each other. We kept our mouths shut and did not deliver insult out of courtesy and respect.

Good grief. I better stop now.

Prices on all things good like reloading and casting supplies are through the roof; not consistent with current levels of inflation. Food prices are likewise through the roof as ANYONE can see. I am saying "no" to a lot of items in the grocery store due to pricing. I simply will NOT pay $12 for soda or $6 for a bag of chips. Christmas stocking stuffers for the wife were modified this year due to the cost of sweets. She got tangerines and nuts instead.

While I may have the means (for a little while longer) to pay the current powder prices, I do not have the desire to pay $100 per pound for it. I have other priorities like lunch. Eating out at fast food joints for lunch has STOPPED. Actually I stopped that years ago.

Well....times are changing. Of that, we can be sure. Remember those metal lunch boxes we had in grade school? Roy Rogers and other cowboy themes? That was sweet.

 

With rifle in hand, I confidently go forth into the darkness.

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Lee Guthrie posted this 20 February 2024

This past weekend I loaded several boxes of 28 gauge shells.   Used 700x bought in 1991 and Win primers bought in 1995.

Upon test firing all went off with a satisfying "BANG".  You don't want to know what the price tag was on those component containers.   cool

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Millelacs posted this 23 February 2024

.          Primers at local Sportsman's Warehouse have been $57/1,000 for a while.

Sportsman's Warehouse - Coon Rapids Minn, Northwest burb of Minneapolis
.          $7.99 to $14.99 per 100 Buy in store-Limit 10
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Sheels on-line search, nearest store Eden Prairie Minn, Southwest of Minneapolis
.          $69.00 to $99.99 per 1,000
.          plus a couple of others at $139.99 and $149.99
.          Then there's the ones that say "See Price in Store"
.          But will there be any in stock when one gets there?  It has been chancy in the past.
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Regional Differences?

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Ken Campbell Iowa posted this 23 February 2024

CCI website lists their LR #200 primers ....  at 9.99/100. retail.

A reasonable dealer should be in that ballpark.

you would hope.

 

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Boschloper posted this 24 February 2024

Stopped by the LGS today. Hodgdon powder was $32 - $38, Alliant was $72, primers $9 / 100. And they must have had 50 boxes of .35 REM on the shelf.

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mashburn posted this 24 February 2024

I guess, I am one of the more fortunate ones, when it comes to reloading components. I was a prairie dog shooter for several years; my brother-in-law and I shot 10 days every year. We would go out in early late spring for a five-day shoot and late summer we would go on another five- day outing.  During these years when-ever I would acquire a little extra pocket money, I would spend it, on reloading components. I always managed to keep a cushion of components and not get caught short when it was reloading time.

Going from an active varmint hunter to no varmint hunting left me with lots of components on hand. My house has central heat and air and I store all of my components in the house and not in the shop, which means they keep very well. Also, when I have seen certain government changes coming over the years, I would try to get ready for the worse. That is why I bought my first rifle bullet molds, during a certain government regime, I bought bullet molds for every rifle that I owned. I didn't use them for years, until I got the cast bullet fever.

I had a contractor install a new heat and air system about one and a half years ago, and evidently his helper was a thief, I'm sure he is the one who stole 5,000 large Winchester primers and about $250.00 in rolled coins. I had just inventoried my primers a few days before their work began, and I knew exactly how many primers that I had. I still have enough components to last me the rest of my lifetime unless I set a record for the oldest living man. I also hope to be able to leave some to my two sons.

Mashburn

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

David a. Cogburn

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