My lgs has federal "champion" 210 large rifle primers in stock. I picked up a box. Has any of the forum members used these? Are they ok for use in a M-1 garand or should i use them in bolt guns? These are the first LRP's i've seen around here in a couple years. Not a great deal at $80.00 per thou, but not the worst either. thanks, mike
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Greetings,
I thought that Federal 200 were Small Magnum Pistol Primers?
I have used up about 15,000 of them over the years.
Cheers,
Dave
https://www.federalpremium.com/reloading/primers/champion-centerfire-primer/11-200.html
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Oops, i should have proof read better. I bought federal 210's, not 200's.
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I have used Federal LRP for years, although only in bolt, lever , and single shots.
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Thanks for confirmation on the federal primers. I will use those primers in my krag and 03A3. I am lucky to have enough cci lrp's for the M-1 garand.
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I sized and primed a 5.56 case and put it in the chamber of my AR15 and let the bolt slam home on it.............20 times. Nothing happens and after the first time there was such a barely visible mark on the primer where the firing pin hit it and it never got any larger the rest of the 19 times. There are many other semi autos with massive free floating firing pins and they don't do much either. BUT the one you have to watch out for is the MAS 49/56. A soft primer in it and BOOM.
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I have used Fed210s in the Garand for cast loads which do not cycle the action. No problems.
John Carlson. CBA Director of Military Competition.
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The slam fires are usually tolerance stacking: softer primer, more brisant primer, free floating firing pin, heavy ff firing pin, reloads, high primer or crud in the primer pocket making a high primer. At a local CMP match one competitor did have a slam fire. He said they were Federals. It can happen, so always be sure to keep things down range. At the CMP western games, I would load a round in the SLED in my Garand and then rest the butt on my stool. The RO said NO, you can rest but not have a round, even if un-chambered, in the rifle.
Dave
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Here's a very good read on primers, especially the new technology and primer that Federal is coming out with:
https://www.outdoorlife.com/cartridge-primer-technology-developments/
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There are more terms then brisiance to high explosives. The more important one is velocity/time of the blast wave. With that said some of, not all, of the compound in a cartridge primer is classified as High Explosive.
Long ago, before the current climate that our government has, the FBI described how the Uni-bomber made one particular explosive device's construction. I'm not going into here for obvious reasons. At any rate his detonating primer to set off the whole main charge was a ball point pen cartridge which he cleaned out and filled with cartridge primer compound that he obtained from taking primers apart. Wow! the nerve!! If any of you don't think that primer compound isn't a high explosive gather a goody amount of it by taking primers apart and making a device and see how non high explosive it is. Now I am not advising you to do such a thing. Please do not do things like that. Use primers for what they were designed for, reloading cartridges and please respect them. They can be a very dangerous thing.
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Aaron you need to do a more thorough seach. It's apparent you did not. Plus I by no means suggesting using primers for anything other then their intended purpose. Sorry the post went over your head.
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Aaron you need to do a more thorough seach. It's apparent you did not. Plus I by no means suggesting using primers for anything other then their intended purpose. Sorry the post went over your head.
You are the truth, the light, and the way. I will no longer respond to any of your posts, make no corrections to your inaccurate information and theories, nor be baited by you any longer. Done!
With rifle in hand, I confidently go forth into the darkness.
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