44 WCF

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beagle6 posted this 03 January 2025

I have read that the original 44 WCF black powder bullites were pure lead any truth to this? Could this still be done?

Thanks

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Ed Harris posted this 04 January 2025

Bryan Austin's .44-40 web site has all the historical data and pressure tested loads with modern powders.

Soft alloy works fine but a pinch of tin improves fill out.

I use 1 to 30 tin-lead from Roto Metals with Accurate 43-206H and 6 grains of Bullseye as a full-charge load in my 1920 Colt New Service and in modern Italian Colt SA clones. In pre-1900 Colts and Winchester 1873 reduce to 5 grains.

73 de KE4SKY In Home Mix We Trust From the Home of Ed's Red in "Almost Heaven" West Virginia

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Aaron posted this 04 January 2025

I am curious to know where you read that. I doubt the commercial ammunition was pure lead. Perhaps the cowboys in the field making reloads used pure lead?

Like Ed says, cruise on over and view the Bryan Austin web site. There is a TON of good information there.

 

 

With rifle in hand, I confidently go forth into the darkness.

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beagle6 posted this 04 January 2025

Aaron

I was doing a Google search on 44/40 ballistics and that was on one post, which I can' seem to find now.I shot in North- South Skirmish Assn. for 10 years and every thing we cast was pure lead ( not just Minnie Balls) and filled out well. I will check out Bryan Austin.

Thanks All

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Ed Harris posted this 04 January 2025

Search the archives here. He has posted the link. His SASS handle is Savvy Jack.

73 de KE4SKY In Home Mix We Trust From the Home of Ed's Red in "Almost Heaven" West Virginia

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Aaron posted this 04 January 2025

With rifle in hand, I confidently go forth into the darkness.

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Aaron posted this 04 January 2025

Search Bryan in members. Click on his entry. His web site is listed as well as the FB group. Easy Peasy.

 

With rifle in hand, I confidently go forth into the darkness.

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beagle6 posted this 05 January 2025

read thru Bryan Austin and that was an eye opener ! Thanks everyone. My goal was to recreate original 44 WCF Ballistics as closely as possible wiith modern components and now I have the necessary information.

Just for fun, check out the N-SSA Recruiting Video, I think you will be entertained.

beagle

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Mike H posted this 06 January 2025

Though I don’t have a 44/40,the posts Bryan put up were always very interesting,however the recent ones at the end of last year are no longer on my IPad.Hoping he is well and continues with his 44/40 endeavours.

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Bryan Austin posted this 09 January 2025

Thanks fellas

beagle6, you may have seen it already, but look for John Korts recreation here: https://sites.google.com/view/44winchester/contributors/john-kort/two-peas-in-a-pod-by-john-kort

44-40 Website -https://www.44-40.org

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beagle6 posted this 09 January 2025

Thanks Bryan, that was very interesting.

beagle

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davemarkowitz posted this 13 January 2025

When I started reloading .44 WCF in 2016, John Kort's article was instrumental in getting me started on the right foot. For black powder loads I use his 43-215C bullet cast in 1:20 or thereabouts, and lubed with a 50/50 mix of mutton tallow/beeswax. Even over a full charge (35 grains of 3Fg) in Starline cases, that bullet carries enough lube for a 24" rifle barrel. I've put up to 100 of them through my Cimarron 1860 Henry in one session without the barrel fouling out.

--- Dave Markowitz

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