44-40 from 38-40

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38splpete posted this 22 December 2021

Can 44-40 cases be formed from 38-40’s?  Nobody has 44-40 cases right now but 38-40 cases are available.  

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delmarskid posted this 22 December 2021

They may end up a little short.

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Little Debbie posted this 23 December 2021

I’m guessing the case wall would be pretty thin if they don’t split. I’ll try one this weekend and let you know.

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jr460 posted this 23 December 2021

Can 44-40 cases be formed from 38-40’s?  Nobody has 44-40 cases right now but 38-40 cases are available.  

Yes have done it many times 

1000 yards easy

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38splpete posted this 23 December 2021

What did you use to expand the cases?

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Little Debbie posted this 25 December 2021

Ok I have converted a number of .38/40 cases without any failures. Kinda surprised me but it works.

  1. Use new cases. I tried some odds and ends of fired .38/40 cases and some were such that my Lee sizing dies would not size them small enough to chamber in my Winchester 66 reproduction.

  2. Expand the case neck. Best was a 44 cal Lyman M die, 2nd best was an RCBS 44 Magnum expander, last choice would be the Lee expander. Run whatever expander you use as deep as you can to open the neck as deeply as possible. Stop before you split the case mouth.

  3. Run the case into the sizing die fully. Make sure the brass you’re using will chamber in your firearm.

  4. Then flare the mouth and load as normal. There will be a wasp waist at the base of your bullet, but most factory loaded .38/40 and .44/40 has a cannelure rolled at the base of the bullet to prevent bullet set back. Didn’t fire any so I don’t know about case splits upon firing.

Another way that would probably work is the Cream of Wheat method. Prime your .38/40, use 2-3 grains of Bullseye, Red Dot, 231, etc. fill the case nearly full of cream of wheat or corn meal. Twist a bar of soap over the case mouth as a plug. Fire and out should pop a nicely fire formed .44/40 case. With this method start with a light charge and increase by 1/2,grain until the case fully forms. Don’t fire these rounds indoors and do this at your own risk. Or watch Starline’s website for .44/40 brass to show as in stock……..I’d probably stick with the mechanical method. Price and availability of primers being what they are.

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38splpete posted this 26 December 2021

Thanks so much for your reply, Little Debbie.  As it turns out I’ll have to file it away for future reference.  I was expecting to find a Uberti SAA in 44-40 but it turned out that’s a hard to find item right now, and a Ruger Vaquero is even harder to find.  My LGS however, had a pair of Taylor (Uberti) SAA’s in .45 Colt, and I was pretty impressed by the quality of the guns, so I went ahead and bought one.  I have brass and dies in that caliber—also a mold for a 225g bullet, so I’ll have to get busy and cast some bullets. Will report on how well it shoots in a couple of weeks, after it’s released from jail.

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Little Debbie posted this 26 December 2021

Uberti makes a very nice revolver and .45 Colt is less troublesome to load than .38/40 and .44/40. Good luck and let us know how it goes.

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Bryan Austin posted this 26 December 2021

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