I've been shooting CB's in the 170-250 gr. range in 30 cals and 35 Whelen using 2400 to get loads in the 1800-2000 fps range. Accuracy usually very good and its easy to work with (meters easily and doesn't seem to be position sensitive in light loads). Problem is that its getting hard to find up here in Northern NH. Anybody got a go to powder that mimics the 2400 ? thanks.
30 and 35 caliber powders
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i usually try both 2400 and 4227/h4227 when looking for a load in that range. as usual, work up .
i do think 4227 is more case sensitive than 2400, so don't load too mild ... if you need a little slower go to unique.
ken
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I am faced with the same dilemma right now with my 7-30 Waters and 218B Contender barrels. Through the summer I shot the BOP matches with the 7-30 and 4227 behind the RCBS 145 grn. cast. It shoots pretty well in a 14 inch barrel and burns pretty clean as well. But tried 2400 for the last targets. Better groups. Only problem is that I ran out. No more to be found right now. Same story with my 10"218B Contender. This barrel likes the NOE pb 55 grn and 2400. But again, the only choice I have right now is 4227 at six grns. As you might imagine, very dirty. But surprisingly enough, nice groups at fifty non the less. However,I have used 4227 for several years in my .30's with good success while shooting the military matches though. Guess there's nothing to do but wait until the 2400 production starts up again. Or, by chance happen to run across some.
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There is 9 powders between 2400 and 4227 on the Hodgdon burn rate chart. Have you looked at data for any of those 9? Also AA5744 is the next slower power from 4227 and is very popular for cast bullets with good published loads.
The Lyman CB Handbook #4 pg 191 has a 35 Whelen load for a 204 gr cast bullet; START 28.0 gr AA5744 1704fps@27,600CUP to MAXIMUM 37.0 gr 2124fps@38,400CUP. That load is highlighted to be the most accurate load for that bullet. The AA5744 is a popular powder and easy to find around here. I have used a few pounds of it and like it.
Here is the chart:
Gary
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I'm rediscovering Unique in magnum pistol cartridges. Not top velocities but pretty good for the amount of powder used.
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Yep, I like Unique also but despite more consistent velocities with it the 2400 got consistently tighter groups. Also, top end with a 200 grain bullet in the 35 Whelen was 1775 fps. I got the 1900 I was after with the 2400 and real nice groups....would like to have some on hand but may end up trying the 4227.
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I like H110. It's a little slower than 2400, but I've had at least equally good results Grouch
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2400 Herco Unique Green Dot Red Dot is the order I used for reduced cast bullet loads. 296/H110 doesn't play well much below MAX. AA9, Lil Gun, or Enforcer might work, but I haven't used them.
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