Flintlock kit for me

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onondaga posted this 25 November 2014

I make it a point to look for a bargain flintlock kit at least every month to see if any new bargains show up. The work paid off this month and I ordered a kit on sale with an additional discount online coupon at the site.

http://www.oldsouthfirearms.com/Frontierkit.aspx>http://www.oldsouthfirearms.com/Frontierkit.aspx

Traditions Frontier Muzzleloader Rifle Kit, .50 Cal flintlockKRC525081$334.00$334.00 Subtotal: $334.00 Add-Ons: $4.00 Discounts: -$16.70 Shipping & Handling: $21.75 Tax: $0.00 Order Total: $343.05

I will finally have a flintlock again and be able to enjoy my favorite kind of shooting that I started with at age 7 in 1957.

Gary

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Dirtybore posted this 10 January 2015

R. Dupraz; the Pedersoli Blue Ridge rifles all have the paten breech. I have one of their 54 caliber flintlock and if you compare it with that breech block pictured, the flue running from the breech back to the vent was 1/2” long and 0.19” in diameter. It was a bear to clean and even when clean, it was possible for 2Fg black plower curnals to bridge and never reach the vent. The rifle exibited inconsistent ignition and switching to 3Fg didn't help that much. If using 3Fg, I could get 3 shots off but once that 0.19 ' diameter flue got fouled, trouble began. the rifle would go off but good groups were impossible due to the inconsistent ignition.

I had a muzzleloder gunsmith pull the breech and bore that flue out to .31 caliber and while he was there, he coned the inside of the vent. That took care of the inconsistent ignition. Several years later I replaced the Pedersoli lock with an H & R Hatfield replacement lock.

I'm not a fan of paten breeches on flintlocks.

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Brodie posted this 10 December 2014

Thanks Gary.

B.E.Brickey

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onondaga posted this 09 December 2014

http://www.castbulletassoc.org/view_user.php?id=1118>Old Coot

The first 32 cal that comes to mind is the Traditions Crockett model. It is a finished percussion rifle that goes in and out of stock and sometimes the Kit is available too. Crockett:

http://www.oldsouthfirearms.com/traditionsdavycrockettrifle.aspx

Gary

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Brodie posted this 09 December 2014

Gary Do you know of anybody who markets a kit gun in .32 or .36 caliber? I realize that this is off the subject of browning vs bluing for metal finishes, but I and several of my friends would like to have a small caliber rifle for rabbits and squirrels. Brodie

B.E.Brickey

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daboone posted this 09 December 2014

I'm another fan Of Plum Brown. That barrel will fit in most kitchen ovens for the heating required. As the barrel will be very clean it won't be an issue for the next batch of cookies. I use a draw file to clean up the barrel before heating and the Plum Brown.

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onondaga posted this 06 December 2014

There is a Build tutorial I am running on this forum for my new Traditions Frontier Flint kit at:

http://castbulletassoc.org/view_topic.php?id=11283&forum_id=64>http://castbulletassoc.org/viewtopic.php?id=11283&forumid=64

Gary

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tturner53 posted this 04 December 2014

Well with a hatchet at least you'll go out swinging!

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delmarskid1 posted this 04 December 2014

"Due to my fear of God and Black Bears, I always carry a hatchet when hunting Bears with any single shot rifle."

Myself I'd want to be on VERY good terms with God if I had to hit a bear with a hatchet! We have a muzzle loader season running till the tenth of Dec. This has kind of got my juices going. I'll cheat and drag out the .58 two band Enfield.

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Longone posted this 02 December 2014

Gary,

I have been shooting my T/C Hawken (flinter) at paper (100yds.) with the R.E.A.L. 320 and it is the best shooter on paper for me. It likes 70 grains of FF with a wad over the powder. My R.E.AL.'s measure .517” at the top band, they fit tight but shoot well.

Longone

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onondaga posted this 02 December 2014

http://www.castbulletassoc.org/view_user.php?id=6699>Longone

I appreciate your sentiments! I do Hunt Black Bear and it has been a long time since I carried a rocklock for Bear. I sold my last flinter, A Lancaster County Squirrel Rifle in .45 Cal about 20 years ago and I have missed it dearly as it was my first rifle as a small boy. I took several Deer and a lot of small game with it. I carried the Lancaster for Bear but had no shot on them with that rifle.

My hope is that I can get the heavy 354 gr hollow base SWC 50 cal Modern Minnie rifle bullet from Lee to shoot well in the new Traditions rocklock rifle. It has a big pretty flat nose and looks to be a Bear puncher at close range where my shots have been on Bear in my area.

I also have the Lee 50 Cal 320 gr R.E.A.L. mold, whichever prints better on paper with 80-90 grains Alliant BMZ , I will hunt with.

Due to my fear of God and Black Bears, I always carry a hatchet when hunting Bears with any single shot rifle!

I will modify the tiny narrow groove of the Traditions rear sight, it is too squinty for hunting bear. It is just a tiny slit at the bottom of the buckhorns...too tiny. You can hardly see that tiny slit in the picture.

Gary

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Longone posted this 02 December 2014

Gary,

This build is to have fun with, part of having fun (for me) is being able to “group” your shots on paper. I'm in the getting older everyday crowd, so being able to see the front sight is more of a memory than reality at this point. A adjustable aperture added to the Lyman rear combined with a globe front is a tremendous help in “grouping". At the same time I would like the finished rifle to be pleasing to the eye, I have no plans of going west and shooting Buffalo on the Great Plains.

Longone

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onondaga posted this 02 December 2014

http://castbulletassoc.org/view_user.php?id=40>Ken Campbell Iowa

http://www.amazon.com/Lyman-Black-Powder-Receiver-Plains/dp/B003XM48L4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1417550803&sr=8-1&keywords=lyman+57gpr>http://www.amazon.com/Lyman-Black-Powder-Receiver-Plains/dp/B003XM48L4/ref=sr11?ie=UTF8&qid=1417550803&sr=8-1&keywords=lyman+57gpr

The simple (oil drenched!)sights included in my new Traditions Kit:

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Ken Campbell Iowa posted this 02 December 2014

please a close up pic of sight. thanks

ken

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onondaga posted this 02 December 2014

http://www.castbulletassoc.org/view_user.php?id=6699>Longone

Re: the Lyman peep. It is not a classic time period sight either, it has an aluminum graduation plate. I didn't get this for my Lyman GP rifle to make it look time period authentic, I got it to have a better sight for match shooting and hunting. It is, and is a terrific sight, but it is very modern in appearance and it is blued. The 1/4 MOA clicks are accurate and repeatable.

Gary

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onondaga posted this 02 December 2014

My kit arrived today 12/01/2014, I will have to study it but initial impression is very good. The stock is Maple and straight grained. The whole kit is in a sealed plastic molded package and unopened.

I only cut out the ramrod. This ramrod is completely finished and fitted with hardware ends and it is a flexible resin ramrod, so I won't have to build one as if the kit came with wooden ramrod. I am injury phobic of wood ramrods and pleased with the resin one in the kit.

The butt plate is fitted and so are the side plates for the barrel wedge. All other parts are packaged and the barrel has about a 200 grit evenly done finish. The barrel is marked made in Spain. There is a threaded hole for a removable flash hole plug as I hoped. The lock frizzen is gray and appears already case hardened. I will pin scratch test the frizzen, if I can scratch it with a pin, I will case harden it myself.The lock-plate is color case hardened.

I will be studying the kit for a while before I begin work and will keep you posted.

Gary

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Longone posted this 29 November 2014

Not for me, too many small parts, knobs, threads etc. I guess I'll be deciding between seeing the front sight or looking correct. My T/C Hawken is blued so this will keep it company in the safe.

Longone

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Notlwonk posted this 29 November 2014

Would it be practical to refinish the sights? Just a thought.

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onondaga posted this 28 November 2014

http://www.castbulletassoc.org/view_user.php?id=6699>Longone

Sure, that is a good point. I wasn't planning on using a peep on this little flint rifle but just using the stock sights,

Actually with the measurements I took on my Percussion Lyman GP rifle that already has the Lyman peep, the globe front sight heights available will not work for me. I use the standard front sight on the Lyman. The globe is too high in my application and loading.

Gary

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Longone posted this 28 November 2014

Gary,

I was pretty much sold on brown metal finish until I thought about putting on the Lyman 57 GPR rear sight and a globe front. As far as I know they both only come in blue finish so that would most likely look shoddy. So if I plan on putting the better sight on I will end up with blued metal.

Longone