Powder & Primers

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David Reiss posted this 01 August 2021

Well powder is almost everywhere again, prices are good back at normal, they sell quickly though. Some examples:

2400 - $30
Bullseye - $28
Accurate #2 - $25
Tightgroup - $23

Primers?????? From $70 - $110 at online sources we all know, that scares me. But if powder is back to normal, then primers can't be far behind. My personal guess is that we will see a 30% + increase when all settles down putting primers at $40-50 per brick. But I hope I am wrong. 

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David Reiss posted this 01 August 2021

Guns have been at normal prices for quite a while, which usually means a street price of 10-20% under suggested retail, except for a few exceptions like the Colt revolvers. 

As far as a concerted effort by our politicians to create the shortage, I don't think so and since we don't allow political talk to be discussed on this forum, we will leave it at that. One for and one against that theory. (Any more discussion of politics on this thread and the entire thread will be deleted).


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Wineman posted this 01 August 2021

Bruno's in AZ has/had CCI 34, 41 and 450's. The mil-spec were $550/5M and the SRM's $500/5M, so your math is right on.

Dave

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sluggo posted this 01 August 2021

Not a lot of powder selection here in northern Ill. No primers. Loaded ammo is around. A lot of it is brands I never heard of. It seems a lot of it is small cottage industry type stuff. Still priced on the high side.

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JeffinNZ posted this 02 August 2021

Meanwhile those of us outside the US look at those prices and think “if only”.

Cheers from New Zealand

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John Carlson posted this 02 August 2021

Last time in Scheels the only primers on the shelf were the CCI 41(?) specifically for 5.56 at $80 a brick.  Not a lot of powders yet.  

John Carlson. CBA Director of Military Competition.

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Bud Hyett posted this 02 August 2021

I want to go to the 2022 NRA Annual Meeting to meet with the suppliers and discuss their pricing.

I was fortunate to be well-stocked in an effort to have the same lot number. 

Farm boy from Illinois, living in the magical Pacific Northwest

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waynebpcr posted this 02 August 2021

Well I sold 30,000 fed 210m primers about 3 years ago thinking I had more than needed . Sitting here wishing I had thought that over a little more.I was in sportsman the other day where there was standing room only at gun department with very few pistols in stock and even less powder and primers. Used pistols in my area still commanding a premium price. 

 

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alco posted this 02 August 2021

Here in  NC  powder and primers are still scarce as hens teeth and my favorite store has upped the price about 100%.

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max503 posted this 03 August 2021

Went to Rural King yesterday. They only wanted $38/ box of some obscure brand 357 mag. No 9mm. $90/brick of 22rf. I'm not counting on the drought being over. The conditions that caused this are still in place.

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RicinYakima posted this 04 August 2021

Local verity store had Federal HB 9mm for $19 for 50. lasted about two hours. 

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Pentz posted this 04 August 2021

Back in the arab oil embargo days, there was expensive fuel, or no fuel.  Take your choice when it comes to components.

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jbinnh posted this 04 August 2021

I got nervous the other day when I opened my last pound of IMR4198. Ended up buying the last two pounds of it at a not so local gunshop for $44 ea. 

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JohnForrest posted this 05 August 2021

Scheels here in Iowa has 3-4 different types of primers in stock every day this week. I think they were 58 a brick.

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David Reiss posted this 05 August 2021

John, that's the lowest I've heard of yet and that is good news. It is just a good indication of the getting back to normal. It will still take until the after the new year for the manufactures to catch up. If we have another covid shut down, which sounds likely, I don't think people will hoard as bad as they did in 2020 and the early part of 2021.

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2kbill posted this 05 August 2021

Same situation here in Charlotte.  Nothing is available locally.  

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John Alexander posted this 07 August 2021

For first time I stood in line for Sportsman's Warehouse from 10 minues before opening this morning hopping to get a pound of AA#2 and primers. They are limiting sales to one pound of powder and half a carton (500) primers.  I got lucky. The powder cost $29.  Chopping the primer carton's in half allowed them to use the 100 box price so $22 for the 500.  Fair enough and far below some stories I have heard.

John

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David Reiss posted this 07 August 2021

Thanks John for confirming what I am seeing and what I think will happen. Many people are telling me I'm wrong and the shortage will continue for a long time and prices will be sky high. I think by the first of next year we will be seeing big strides in getting back to normal. 

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Boschloper posted this 08 August 2021

I visited a couple local shops this afternoon, they both had a good supply of ammo. .30-06 was $25 - $30 a box. Neither one carries reloading components. I was encouraged by both the inventory and the prices.

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MarkinEllensburg posted this 08 August 2021

I have seen some powder at several shops ranging from North Idaho to Central Washington.Primers are nearly unobtainable at reasonable prices. All vendors have limits on sales. The good news is Powder is staying in stock for more than a few days. Seems it's just a matter of time until stocks return. Prices seem to be up about 30%. The powders available are mostly newer formulations. No Varget, Unique, BE, 4350, or H335 just to name a few.

One of the local gun shops has primers, large rifle and large rifle magnum for $11 per 100. They also have 1 pound containers of Alliant 10X for $93 or so. I am not likely to spend much money there any time soon.

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Eutectic posted this 10 August 2021

 Here in Georgia powder is coming in and selling at around 30$ a pound. Supplies and types are limited but if you wait you may find what you want. The hoarders prices have come way down,

No primers here in stores. The local hoarders are advertising primers at 200$ a brick. This will not last once supply improves which will be soon.  

 

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Tom G posted this 23 August 2021

A friend of mine went to a gun show here in SE Michigan.  He found a table that had quite a few of the pistol speed powders for sale. They were $ 47.00 a pound.  Needless to say he didn't buy any and didn't even waste his time looking at the primers.  Looks like some are starting to become available again which is encouraging.  

Tom 

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M1fuzz posted this 24 August 2021

Lately our Scheels has had CCI large pistol and small pistol primers for $65 a brick. CCI small rifle for around $55 a brick. They had a couple bricks of CCI large rifle match for $100 a brick the other day. It has been spotty though. Absolutely no CCI large rifle or any primers by Winchester at all. They have one pound bottles of IMR4227 now at $41.99. Cripes!!!! No other powders except for a bunch of high dollar VitaVouhri.

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toot posted this 14 March 2023

what does any one think about TRAIL BOSS powder? seems that you get a lot of loads from an 8OZ. can? just courious?

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Boschloper posted this 15 March 2023

I like it for target loads in revolver calibers. I was never able to get enough in a 9mm case to cycle the action. 

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RicinYakima posted this 15 March 2023

Trail Boss the is solution to for people who load with a progressive machine and can't check how much powder is in the case. Other than that it has no advantage over other fast pistol powders. No matter what Mic says, powder position is a myth with anything like a standard pressure load. FWIW

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dbarron posted this 15 March 2023

Coeur d’Alene ID,Black Sheep had primers, no limit, 75 bucks/1000, small rifle or pistol, shot shell or 50BMG (Whoopee). Powder no limit, but they got what they got. Had some Varget a while back, spendy , but…

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Buttersdad posted this 20 March 2023

Locally our LGS has more powder available than in a while, nothing I need. They also have more primers in stock, but so far just small pistol and shotshell. For our small town that's a lot compared to the past 4 years.

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Eutectic posted this 26 March 2023

Powder is back 37-45$ a pound. At the local Big Box several fast pistol and a dozen rifle speeds. You might not find exactly what you want but you could load any caliber with what was available. Primers come and go, there were Winchester  SP @ 89$ a brick - no limit. They lasted two days. Small rifle last week, maybe large rifle next week, they go quick, you have to be there.

Another few months and we may be back to normal.

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