Imperial Die Wax Substitute

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David Reiss CBA Membership Director posted this 29 August 2021

I was changing the diaper on my 10 month old grandson (yes it's a messy job, but someone has to do it and I've had plenty of experience with three kids and now six grandkids) and saw this stuff in the diaper bag. When I opened it, I thought this is Imperial with a different name. Tried it and it works the same! Best thing is the it is about $13 for a 2 oz. tin vs $10 for a 1 oz. Imperial tin. So I traded my daughter with a container of Boudreaux" Butt Paste (worked great on them when they were little), and now the Better Baby Bottom is on my reloading bench. 

Here's the bad news, it comes from BC, Canada and is hard to find right now because of covid. Good news though for our Canadian members. Normally Amazon has it, but you might find it elsewhere on the net. 

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porthos posted this 02 September 2021

there is not yet a substitute for imperial die wax

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Maven posted this 29 August 2021

Lots of options if you enter the above name on Amazon:  baby bottom better diaper salve.  OTOH Aquafor, which is also listed can be found pretty commonly in most pharmacies, supermarket pharmacies.

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ray h posted this 29 August 2021

I started using Imperial when it first came out, great stuff but I switched to Hornady Unique wax for nearly all my sizing. Midway has the 4 oz tub for around 7.00. By the way if you do any heavy reforming cases the Hornady One Shot sizing wax is good, it puts me in mind of the old Red Rooster HD forming wax.. A 2 oz can is 6.00.

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axman posted this 30 August 2021

Your grandson might be Sore at you.

I had to say it. Thanks

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David Reiss CBA Membership Director posted this 30 August 2021

 He'll just grow up as a hard ass!  

David Reiss - NRA Life Member & PSC Range Member Retired Police Firearms Instructor/Armorer
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- Also deal in: Land, Banjos, Nails, Firearms, Manure, Fly Swatters, Used Cars, Whisky, Racing Forms, Rare Antiquities, Lead, Used Keyboard Keys, Good Dogs, Pith Helmets & Zulu Headdresses. .

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lotech posted this 30 August 2021

I started handloading in 1965 and used Vicks' VapoRub for sizing brass. It worked fine and I used it for several years before trying a regular case sizing lube. Vaseline also works well. I've never used one of these for heavy case forming but they may be okay for that, too. Imperial is my favorite, but I can't really say it's better than many others. 

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bdrake71 posted this 01 September 2021

under $8 at most walmarts...

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David Reiss CBA Membership Director posted this 02 September 2021

The problem I have with the Hornady tub stuff and things like the Kiwi conditioning oil is they are soft compared to the Imperial wax and like stuff. Imperial is at it's best because not only it works so well, it's takes a minute amount and leaves so little residue making it very easy to wipe off. 

David Reiss - NRA Life Member & PSC Range Member Retired Police Firearms Instructor/Armorer
-Services: Wars Fought, Uprisings Quelled, Bars Emptied, Revolutions Started, Tigers Tamed, Assassinations Plotted, Women Seduced, Governments Run, Gun Appraisals, Lost Treasure Found.
- Also deal in: Land, Banjos, Nails, Firearms, Manure, Fly Swatters, Used Cars, Whisky, Racing Forms, Rare Antiquities, Lead, Used Keyboard Keys, Good Dogs, Pith Helmets & Zulu Headdresses. .

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TRKakaCatWhisperer posted this 02 September 2021

SO - what is in Imperial, and has anyone tried to replicate it or come close?

 

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David Reiss CBA Membership Director posted this 02 September 2021

I don't know, but it takes so little it is very economical. The Baby Bottom Better seems like the same stuff just different color. Both work identical. 

David Reiss - NRA Life Member & PSC Range Member Retired Police Firearms Instructor/Armorer
-Services: Wars Fought, Uprisings Quelled, Bars Emptied, Revolutions Started, Tigers Tamed, Assassinations Plotted, Women Seduced, Governments Run, Gun Appraisals, Lost Treasure Found.
- Also deal in: Land, Banjos, Nails, Firearms, Manure, Fly Swatters, Used Cars, Whisky, Racing Forms, Rare Antiquities, Lead, Used Keyboard Keys, Good Dogs, Pith Helmets & Zulu Headdresses. .

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MP1886 posted this 02 September 2021

SO - what is in Imperial, and has anyone tried to replicate it or come close?

 It's proprietary so tough to find even on a MSDS sheet.  I think that you will find a petroleum products in it. 

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max503 posted this 03 September 2021

I always thought sizing lube = STP oil treatment.  I'm talking about the clear, RCBS stuff.

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max503 posted this 03 September 2021

I always thought sizing lube = STP oil treatment.  I'm talking about the clear, RCBS stuff.

Bought my first tin of Imperial Wax a year or so ago and I really like it.

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Dale53 posted this 08 September 2021

Well,

as a result of these comments, I dropped by Bass Pro and bought a container of Hornady Unique for $7.99 + tax. Since I am shooting only handguns these days it will probably be a lifetime supply. I was nearly out of Imperial so the comments were timely.

Dale53

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gnoahhh posted this 09 September 2021

Good to know should I ever run out of Imperial. With four tins of it on hand, and judging by how long it lasts, I may well be stocked up for the long haul!

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