Filled Out Bases

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teamgeek posted this 10 April 2022

From time to time I have struggled to get the bases of my cast bullets to fill out completely.  The defects can vary from slight but uniform rounding of the base to irregular voids at random locations around the base of the bullets.  Sometimes this affects only some of the cavities in a multi cavity mold.  I have generally been able to overcome these challenges by increasing the temperature of the mold or alloy, adjusting the sprue plate, or by varying the method of delivering the alloy to the mold.

This week I was having particular difficulty filled out bases on my bullets with a two cavity RCBS 30-165-Sil mold.  I was using linotype alloy.  Nothing was working when I stumbled on to a new technique I will call "topping off the mold".  This consists of filling the first cavity, filling the second cavity, and then in succession going back to the still molten puddles and adding a little more alloy.  This method resulted in consistent perfect bases.  The only downside was a slight increase in lead spilled off the sides of the mold that was then collected and put back into the pot.

Hopefully others will give this a try if they are having problems with bullet bases.  I would be interested in any comments on this technique

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delmarskid posted this 10 April 2022

Are you using a ladle or bottom pour pot? When ladling I hold the sprue plate against the ladle horizontally and rotate them to near vertical while keeping them in firm contact letting excess run back into the pot for a second or two.

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Lee Guthrie posted this 10 April 2022

Once upon a time I remember being taught to fill the mould cavity and keep pouring, so as to have adequate metal available when the alloy cooled and contracted.  Anyway, below are references to some Fouling Shot articles that may be helpful with that subject.

 

       d.  Base                                                                             #212-6

           (1)  Base upset                                                              #128-5, 197 -9, 198-10

           (2)  Bevel or plain                                                        #252-3

           (3)  Bumps – removing                                                #216-14

           (4)  Chamfer tool                                                         #144-3

           (5)  Comparing plain base to gas check                       #152-15, 166-17

           (6)  Overall bullet condition (by R. Hoch)                   #5-4

           (7)  Dents in                                                                  #121-14

           (8)  Filing                                                                     #198-15

           (9)  Base forward                                                         #211-14

          (10)  Seating depth                                                       See “Seating depth”

          (11)  Squaring                                                                #98-15, 212-7

          (12)  Wire edges                                                             #61-24

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Shuz posted this 10 April 2022

If it works for you, stick with it! I have really never had a poor base fill out problem. Rather, my issue is with a lip that often forms on the bases .This can be attributed to a too loose sprue plate and/or too fast or heavy stream from my bottom pour furnace. To eliminate those fins or lips I tried a friend's NOE base dressing tool that acts somewhat like a neck deburring tool. It works, but not as well as I had expected.Anybody else have comments on this tool?

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