in my stash i have several old 30-06 brass with extra large primers ... larger than modern large primers. these are FA ( edit : 1934 year ) ....
i hate to toss these, if anybody would like these, for postage, pm me .
and yes, i started to load a few of these ... heh ... brass looks good still ...
ken
hey, these would be fun to plink at with a pellet rifle ...
edit: these were unfired, with original primers in the brass.
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I will gladly take them for my reference collection. Thank you.
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I've seen the old two stage primers on other calibers.
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Corrosive primers ?
Long time Caster/Reloader, Getting back into it after almost 10yrs. Life Member NRA 40+yrs, Life S.A.S.S. #375. Does this mean a description of me as a fumble-fingered knuckle-draggin' baboon. I also drool in my sleep. I firmly believe that true happiness is a warm gun. Did I mention how much I HATE auto-correct on this blasted tablet.
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To take this to a slightly different direction, Does anyone have in their stash an actual 30 gov't 03 round or case? I am still playing with an 1895 Winchester in 30-03; finding various information in different places. Wikipedia lists case length as 2.540" (nominal?) same as 270 Win which I have formed cases to use in the 95 since I got it repaired to stop lever opening on firing. Also Lyman 50 notes that the 30-03 case was shortened 0.070" to get the 30-06, which I am guessing is from measuring a chamber? I am going to do a chamber cast of the 95 for my own info. Any thoughts would be appreciated. TIA.
Al
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My original loaded .30 model 1903 Rem - UMC cases are 2.555". I don't have any FA .30 1903 cases to compare. Modern loaded .30 model 1906 R-P cases are 2.485".
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just for fun, i measured case lengths on a few of my 1934 FA brass with extra large primers.
the bullets have been pulled but the primers are still intact although probably not " live " anymore .
length: 2. 515 502 487 516 500 485 490
i suspect these came from the same crate ... i got these from a bag of used mixed brass i bot for plinking ... i am sure the guy that sold them to me didn't realize they were useless for reloading.
i wonder if some of their cousins were fired upward at the torpedo bombers swirling above Pearl Harbor a few short years ago ...
ken
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Thanks for the info gentlemen. I checked the chamber of the 95 with a sliding plug in a sized case and got approximately 2.617 probably to some point on the neck angle. A check of a Savage 110 30--06 chamber showed 2.540 approx with the same plug arrangement - need to check SAAMI 30-06 chamber dimensions vs the max case length of 2.494. Also found the 0.070 case shortening number in 1st Accurate load manual, I thought I had a copy of Cartridges of the World but can't find it. Thanks again.
Used another neck plug gauge provided by a local CBA member - this one measures 0.330 at neck end and slides in the sized case. Results for 30-06 were 2.520 to end of neck for Savage 110 30-06, probably to about center of 35 degree angle specified in SAAMI and 2.605 to end of neck in 1912 1895 Winchester. SAAMI for 30-06 specifies a 0.3404 +0.002" neck diameter, 35 degree 43 minute angle on neck chamfer and 2,502 + 0.015"to start of angle with 2.5228" + 0.015" to start of throat.
This would certainly work for the 30-03 case measured above if the measurements used back then were similar to the 30-06 data.. FWIW
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