Any idea of who can build me a gas checked 7mm bullet mold? I need .290" diameter. Any help would be appreciated. NOE has a design I would buy if it was in stock. Thanks, Patrick
7x57 Mauser bullet mold
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Jeff,
No, the website says no gas checks on 7mm. Tooling limitations.
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i have an oversized 7mm mold by OLD WEST ... a brass mold from about 1985 ... if any interest I will dig it out .
It was one of several molds I had for my 7mm Rem. Express . ( g ) . pm me if.
ken
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You can order a custom or standard mold from accuratemolds.com
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I have a 7mm NOE 4 cavity GC that's 170gr and .293 diameter I might sell if it doesn't
work out for what I want to use it for. I'll know in a few days when the weather breaks.
You can contact me at [email protected]
leadhead
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I appreciate the responses. The update and back story: I have an early '80's Winchester M70 XTR Featherweight in 7x57 Mauser. Never intended to shoot cast in it as I have literally thousands of jacketed bullets in .284" . Full power jacketed bullet loads will leave the fired case neck with .292" ID measured with a pin gauge. There is .285" length free bore in front of the chamber neck before the rifling starts. I partially resized the case neck with just enough tension to hold the .292" pin gauge snug but still push into the case when chambering to get free bore measurement. The bore/groove measurements are .276"/.284". With LBT burning down it wasn't looking good for 7mm molds. Accurate Molds has tooling limitations for 7mm like no gas check and very shallow lube grooves, NOE is out of stock of any mold I ever need, and I really didn't want to get a single cavity custom spec Brooks mold but I was leaning that way and still might. I found a used (?) RCBS 7mm-168-SP two cavity with Omark Industries on the box at the LGS, probably late '80's -'90's production. It didn't look used as it hadn't turned that slight purple color from heat but it was on the used shelf. The price was half of what they go for now so I bought it. Cast of wheel weights it drops .287" on the driving bands and the bore ride nose is .280". Now I have to deal with nose sizing the long bore ride section down to .276". I have my own lathe and mill but since I use machine tools for a living I really don't like coming home and building things. In this case I had no choice. I made a .288" Lyman style H&I die for the body and a .276" die to nose size. Pushing the bullet into the die to nose size increases the bullet diameter by .0005" to .2875". Nose sized to .277" it will stick in the rifling and will pull out of the dummy case staying in the rifle when ejecting said round. While building the .288" H&I die I stopped @ .276" and then .277" and tried that nose size of each in dummy rounds and found that the .277" stays in the rifling when loaded to 3.1" OAL. Initially I thought I was going to have to put the RCBS mold in the Bridgeport and use a boring bar to open up the driving bands in the cavities. That was before I cast up some samples and found out about the big nose size. But now I'm hoping that the custom sized bore ride nose will center the case/bullet in the bore and accuracy will be good. I'm chasing turkeys right now here in MO so I won't be able to test it for another couple weeks as I don't shoot on the farm shooting range when season is going. The toms like to strut on the low cut grass of my range.
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hi ... I am not clear what the diameter of your " free-bore " area of your throat might be. is your 0.292 pin gauge going into your free-bore ?
the id of a fired case only depends on the id of the neck area of your chamber, as it expands to fit the chamber neck, not the throat/bullet seat. btw, the case neck od after firing is about 0.001- 0.002 smaller than the actual cold chamber neck .
a soft lead upset or sulfur - cerrosafe casting of your chamber front neck and throat and a tad of rifling might be interesting. also great to use later to determine seating oal of different castings.
I am enjoying your adventure with the 7mm ... I have always thought the sweet spot for cast is 6mm or 7mm .. if I ever get back to standing up over 10 minutes at a time I might build another accurate cast rifle in 6 or 7mm ... ( g ) .
ken
oh, I have good luck with various RCBS molds .. including in 7mm . they even " smell " of class and old-school ...
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hi ... I am not clear what the diameter of your " free-bore " area of your throat might be. is your 0.292 pin gauge going into your free-bore ?
Yes, the .292" pin gauge is entering the free bore .285" deep. I'm using the pin gauge just like seating a flat based jacketed bullet backwards and sticking far enough out that when chambering it will be pushed back into the case. Then using a depth gauge to measure how much the pin is extending past the case neck.
the id of a fired case only depends on the id of the neck area of your chamber, as it expands to fit the chamber neck, not the throat/bullet seat. btw, the case neck od after firing is about 0.001- 0.002 smaller than the actual cold chamber neck .
Exactly. Figuring that the case neck has retracted at least .001" and probably more like .002" after firing helps give me another data point in determining potential cast bullet diameter.
a soft lead upset or sulfur - cerrosafe casting of your chamber front neck and throat and a tad of rifling might be interesting. also great to use later to determine seating oal of different castings.
It would be and I used to do things like that but I find them kind of a PIA anymore and not really needed for my purposes. I don't shoot matches just punch paper at my range.
I am enjoying your adventure with the 7mm ... I have always thought the sweet spot for cast is 6mm or 7mm .. if I ever get back to standing up over 10 minutes at a time I might build another accurate cast rifle in 6 or 7mm ... ( g ) .
ken
oh, I have good luck with various RCBS molds .. including in 7mm . they even " smell " of class and old-school ...
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