Vassal
posted this
16 October 2009
Man oh Man, Man oh man, Man oh man.,,,,,,,
I wish this had not happened.
I have said many times that I appreciate a TREMENDOUS amount The PRICELESS advice and information that I recieve from all those who post. I have benefited greatly from posts written by Mighty Ed. (So much so that I have chosen to affix a casual title of respect to his name) I personally DO understand that using anothers data is NOT a good idea (i.e. one should contemplate, research, perhaps reduce&work-up et cetera.) I also believe that along with reminders to safely handload, specific data IS IMPORTANT. Without specific data, learning from each other would be even more difficult than it already is.
The “etiquitte” that has developed for discussion about handloading is a good one, AND i think ADEQUATE for safety. There is no way to make this entirely safe. That being said, I DO understand the concern that some have about giving load data on the higher end of things.
Specifically, this situation, HAS resolved itself perfectly and safely. I saw a load, I asked about the load, I recieved advice and discusion. I also learned by asking about that load and had it not been there I would NEVER have questioned my understanding of high velocity Cast loads.
Mighty Ed was not suggesting that others use his load, but rather describing his experiences in a detailed way that allows his fellows to understand and learn. I don't have any idea what velocity that produces (unless he said it) and I have no intention on trying to produce it. But some day I may decide that I would like a similiar load, At that point I'll develop one for my guns using what I have learned from Ed, Stephen, Duane and MANY others.
Stephen's notions and concerns are not baseless either. (as stated I don't share them exactly but,) His appraoch does seem to be. There are communication cues lacking on-line that make this a different sort of conversing, (sometimes I just aske a question that I essentially know the answer to because I need more information and explaining EXACTLY what I know and don't know, simply takes too many words - people wouldn't want to read it And I don't want to type it.) It may lead people to believe that I know less than I actually do. It can lead to misinterpretations of comments in other ways also; some jokes won't work very well here. In these circumstances, all name calling is beyond the bounds of polite decency and can not be tolerated. Perhaps even Mighty Ed is wrong, maybe he doesn't like it or think it is taking him too lightly; the fact is I don't know. Of course sometimes people aren't innocent or joking.
There WILL be disagreements among so many individual-minded people, but they must be parsed with respect and decency. Most are pretty good about doing that. I hope that all involved here will continue to offer help and specific accounts of what they have done, so that I, and others, can learn from it and engage in a dangerous hobby, safely.
Perhaps sharing specific data is not the safest thing to do. I think that in MOST instances (even stout loads) it makes things MORE SAFE, but I could be wrong.
I can understand and respect both sides.